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Old 03-25-2005, 09:54 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Here is a movie that brings up many interesting points about 9/11. While I don't support everything presented I would love to hear what you guys think. Especially the conservatives in here.

Movie about 9/11 (It's about 20 minutes long)
Wow what a great educational film. I especially like the massive conspiracy of the twin towers collapsing, and if daunting question of if the terrorists have the capability of setting explosives inside the tower, well they obivously do have the capabilty of building some pretty good expolisives, just think of all of those IEDs Improvised Explosive devices that have killled so many pawns, Also what will melt through steel like butter is aluminium, you can not put out a fire from burning aluminium. When it is in thin sheets, like an 300,000lbs boeing it melts easily. So that whole arguement about that was baseless in my opinion, I think the 300,000lbs aircraft with all the fuel on board could easily take down a building like that. Also, the building crashed down therefore making it appear as if it were being slowly blown up. That other building was empty if I am not mistaken, and it was not the main focus of the american people, the two towers would have sufficed to have, scared the american people. It was a pretty good propaganda flick but I really don't base anything on it, there are many good arguements against practically everything in it.
Roger that. Even if the towers did come down from the impact of the planes there are many other questions surrounding the events of 9/11 that seem sketchy. Can you explain in greater detail about the aluminium through steel. I am honestly interested.
The one instance that I know of was aboard an aircraft carrier USS Forrestal. The internet source that I found does not speak of the actual aluminum igniting, but a Naval Captian of 26 years explained it to me. A zuni rocket was accidentally fired from John Mccains fighter jet and hit a fuel tank causing a massive fire that eventually got hot enough to melt aluminum (aluminum's melting point is 1,221F 660C Source: ASM Metals Reference Book, 3rd edition, ASM International , Materials Park, OH 1993) The second source has the best information on the topic. The third source is interesting and shows how hot it can get. Also keep in mind that there are a number of water pipes inside the building, therefore when the water inside heats in the pipes it will explode like a pipe bomb. http://forrestal.org/fidfacts/page13.htm
www.dmanuta.com/dmm/boehlert1.doc
http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/QTMilitaireUsages.html

All very interesting but still the temperatures are not hot enough to bend steel. Aluminum's melting point is almost 300 degrees less than steel.
Ignition and melting are totally different things. The metal will be in liquid form before it ignites, but once it ignites it will be extremely hot. Much higher than the melting point. Take Magnesium for instance, haven't you ever ignited magnesium in chemistry? Aluminum burns at a higher temp. than magnesium.

How does it all relate to the steel though? You keep referring to aluminum.