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Old 07-10-2007, 11:28 PM   #305 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by garysher View Post
You don't give up dragging up these irrelevant parallels!
I've stated countless times that I oppose racism and I'm glad I didn't grow up in a country that had apartheid policies, as you did.
You don't give up with non-sequitur replies!
It's irrelevant whether or not you oppose racism. That isn't the point.
The point is that it does not matter what the majority says or what laws the majority passes if they are unconstitutional.


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Originally Posted by garysher
My wife and I would not have been able to marry under your miscegenation laws.
As usual you are talking from a position of banal ignorance and denial.
And again you reply with a non-sequitur, and an idiotic insult.
Nothing I said was ignorant. You didn't even respond to what I ACTUALLY said:

The same is true of Loving v Virginia.
But let me guess. You SUPPORT that ruling, so therefore it's okay....

That is the REAL defining factor here, isn't it...



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Originally Posted by garysher
Your mentality of "equal"would mean there would be no reason why polygamy and incestuous marriage would "withstand rational-based review", to quote Justice Scalia.
"Scalia also averred that, State laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality, and obscenity are likewise sustainable only in light of Bowers' validation of laws based on moral choices."
Why do you even try to say things that everybody ALREADY KNOWS the response to?
Scalia was a short-sighted idiot. The reasons for preventing polygamy and incest have already been given.

Has Scalia's quote come to pass?
Is prostitution legal in this country?
No?

I mean, he even mentions MASTURBATION and ADULTERY. NEITHER of which are illegal ANYWHERE in this state.
That should have been your first clue that you were quoting an idiot...

I guess quoting people whose predictions are wrong doesn't strike you as dumb, does it.


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Originally Posted by garysher
The fact is that marriage is for one man and one woman.
I am frequently amused by how you try to bolster your OPINION by calling it a fact.
It's amusing, and boring at the same time.
Do you think there is ANYBODY out there who sits there going "Well, Garysher called it a "fact", so it must be so."???


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Originally Posted by garysher
And all men and women have the exact same right to marry subject to the same restrictions.
As it has already been proven with the FIRST comment of this post which you avoided responding to, "same restrictions" IS NOT equal rights.
If "same restrictions" were "equal rights", that would invalidate the Loving v Virginia ruling.
"(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish."
-- Jon Stewart
"Please don't judge others by your own standards."
-- Garysher