Originally Posted by forester814

Decent advice at the end there. Thanks.

But I am just stunned to see that I did not misunderstand your position somehow. You really do put all of the responsibility on the woman, and none on the man. And you believe that is the prevalent attitude out there.

Any woman having sex at any time had better be sure ahead of time that her partner will be a good father who will stick around forever, in case she gets pregnant. And if he says he will, and then runs off, that's her fault too. Really? Is that what you are really saying? Because I am still having trouble believing that's your (or anyone's) view.

When I asked why guys aren't told not to have sex if they don't want to be fathers, all you said was, "Guys don't care" and mature slower than women. That's your excuse for laying it all on the woman? Men are immoral and childish by nature, and it just can't be helped? Rather than suggesting that guys need to man up, you say it is entirely up to the woman to insure that the child has two decent parents?

That is so sad and so screwed up, and so sexist, that I don't even know where to start.

Other than to ask, with the advice you have given me on how to raise my daughter, how will you raise and advise your son on these matters? (It's rhetorical, I'm not asking you to defend your parenting skills to me.)

If this is truly "how it is" out there, I have more reason than ever to fear for my daughter's future.