Originally Posted by Katczinsky

Man, that's like asking me to write a book. That's perhaps a new thread, or at least give me time to compose such a long argument.

Yeah I'll bet. I don't see us "progressing any more though. I think the possibility of true "freedom" has passed.



That's what many slaves were saying, too, when the economy started booming (due to slavery and cotton farming) and slave owners were considering themselves righteous "progressives" by providing for their slaves better. But, just because some were happy, doesn't mean they weren't free. The 'progressives' of that day and under that social condition (slavery) are essentially equatable to the "progressives" (bourgeois liberals) of today and today's social condition (capitalism).