...but I have no idea if you've done 3 tours.

All I go by is the people who make the most sense, and the soldiers I've heard and personally spoken to. They've talked about the massive propaganda you guys have faced, check into some other info and you'll get a balanced perspective.

Here, this is the most compelling talk I've ever seen on the situation, it's about a year old and a tonne of the stuff he spoke of has now been widely proven elsewhere:

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh spills the secrets of the Iraq quagmire and the war on terror

BERKELEY – The Iraq war is not winnable, a secret U.S. military unit has been "disappearing" people since December 2001, and America has no idea how irreparably its torture of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib prison has damaged its image in the Middle East. These were just a few of the grim pronouncements made by Pulitzer Prize–winning investigative reporter Seymour "Sy" Hersh to KQED host Michael Krasny before a Berkeley audience on Friday night (Oct. 8th).

The past two years will "go down as one of the classic sort of failures" in history, said the man who has been called the "greatest muckraker of all time" and (paradoxically) the "enfant terrible of journalism for more than 30 years." While Hersh blamed the White House and the Pentagon for the Iraq quagmire and America's besmirched world image, he was stymied by how it all happened. "How could eight or nine neoconservatives come and take charge of this government?" he asked. "They overran the bureaucracy, they overran the Congress, they overran the press, and they overran the military! So you say to yourself, How fragile is this democracy?"

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/r...11_hersh.shtml