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Old 09-14-2007, 06:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by baloney_detector View Post
The fact is, the US cannot rationally give the Iranian regime what they actually want.

So, the US has no leverage in any "talks" with Iran...no matter if the US talks with them directly or through a third party.

And I don't think you fully understand the nature of the Iranian regime as a whole.

They want to dominate the Middle East and turn it into one big theocratic and totalitarian state. And they want the end of all American and Western influence wherever Muslims live in this world. And they want the end of Israel.

But, none of these things are things that the US can offer them.

And, any "carrots" the US offers them isn't going to stop them from trying to achieve these goals.

And this is how its been for the past 28 years, no matter what the US has already offered and given to them during that time.
I think you have a one-sided view of the US relationship with Iran , and Iran's with Israel. And it sounds like it came straight from one of those wacky talk-radio show hosts!

Don't forget it was the Russians and Britain, supported by the US, who interfered in the internal affairs of Iran when they installed the Shah in 1941 and forced the abdication of his father.

And when the Shah was overthrown in 1979, the US gave him shelter, which provoked the hostage crisis.

Then the US backed Saddam and helped kill thousands of Iranians during the Iran-Iraq war. The very thing we criticise Iran for currently.

I recommend you watch the MSNBC or 60 minutes interview with Ahmadinejad where he explains some of the Iranian attitude to Israel, basically:

-the attacks on the Jews in WW2 were a European problem, so why give them a piece of land in the Middle East that belonged to Palestine? It would make more sense to form Israel in Bavaria or Idaho

- when he talks about "driving the Israelis into the sea" he means driving them out of Israel and restoring the land to Palestine, not necessarily about genocide

-when the US warns Iran and other foreign fighters to stay out of Iraq, Iran repeats the same line back at the US

I'm not trying to pretend they are right, only that they have a point of view that we never ever consider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http:...?v=ykd-syzZ4ZY