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Old 09-16-2007, 11:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I attended my first Unitarian Universalist service last Sunday. It's my city's only UU church, and it's really small with a congregation of maybe just over 20 people. Then the only other one around here is a very large one in Columbus.

I must say that I am disappointed, yet I almost expected that. Perhaps if I attended the larger church in the city I would get a better dose of what it means to attend a UU church. Granted, it is a huge breath a fresh air when comparing it to a traditional church, mosque, temple, or etc. service. However, I found a lot of the symbolism and ritual to be pretty counter-intuitive to the idea of a more secular, liberal, 'universialist', and 'unitarian' approach to religion. It was made to encompass most if not all different schools of religious belief. It was made to attempt to find truth in a more empirical and personal level yet they seem to have a lot of pointless symbolism and ritual that is basically meaningless to any belief system. Almost as if they try to look like a religion when in fact they are just many different individuals and their beliefs united in a community.

If you want to go to a place where a healthy exchange of different philosophical and religious beliefs are going on in a more realistic way, then my personal opinion is to just circumvent all the meaningless religious-like mumbojumbo and just attend a philosophy discussion group.

I also got a lot of New Agey vibes in all the different rituals and practices. And I thought that a lot of the New Age-ist hijacking of science through pseudo-science to be more despicable than other fundamentalist religions just out-right opposing science. Because what you get are people passing off as scientists that just make up basically whatever they want about certain theories (you'll almost always hear New Agers talking about Quantum theory because it's so a loose theory and one that almost no one understands) to attempt to rationalize their supernatural and sometimes superstitious beliefs. At least many fundamentalist Christians are honest about their opposition and contradiction to science and empiricism.

You get a lot of that in UU churches which unnerves me.

I was just wondering if anyone else here attends or has attended a UU church and perhaps they could talk about their experiences there themselves.
This is the only organization with an interest in the spiritual that I would ever consider exploring. I do not get along with dogma of any kind. I would have to say though, if you experienced folks actually passing off theories as fact then that would turn me off too (although many times folks exposed to new ideas resent it outright even if those ideas are presented as just something to peruse), and if one presents something as science without any credible citations--well then DUH!!! Run away and fast!

I've no idea how what you resented was presented to you, but the whole reason I defected from Christianity is because they claim the "fast track" to heaven and have a self-serving proscribed means to attain it. I disagree with that, although I do not berate the belief and have many wonderful Christian friends who epitomize Christ's teachings (as opposed to merely justifying portions of the old testement).

An aside--the best Mozart I ever heard was in my city's UU church. World class vocalists and musicians.