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Originally Posted by Gadgetory I agree fx I am glad that the people who went before us fought for equality amongst the races and genders in this country. And I blame the system that created sexist and or racist morons as well. Just as I blame the system for exlcuding people for no reason other then they give some people a wiggins...as is the case with homosexuals. They are excluded because they give people like you a wiggins more or less. You are part of a system that keeps apart a section of our society from full particiaption in society and have no issue in doing so just as white men kept women from voting for example. These men also felt that women where incapable of voting and participating fully in society and if they did society and the democratic system would be altered to the detriment of freedom. As such the US was one of the LAST countries in the Western World to grant women the right to vote. Heterosexual marriage will not be affected by extending marriage to gay people and if it is then the marriage was already doomed. And nothing you've said that I have read on this subject change that simple fact..gays give you a wiggins and instead of saying hey that is my problem not theirs you visit your issue upon them.
Heterosexual marriage will also not be effected if we allow people to marry pets. But we don't want that to happen either. And homosexuals weren't included in the constitution for several reasons, but mostly for the same reason there are no urinals in the womens room. They aren't necessary.
Sex with an animal is rape because they CANNOT give legal consent. Rape is defined by legal consent or lack thereof. Children, animals, certain people with limited mental capacity are thought to be UNABLE to give legal consent. It is that simple. | And again, animals are just that, animals. We use them for all kinds of things. There is no proof that any sex with animals is rape. Nor is there proof that all human animal sexual contact is harmful. Whenever you make such blanket assertions, you start sounding like the same people gay people hate that call all of them HIV ridden vermin.
WE don't ask animal how they feel when we cut thier home down or dig it up. We don't ask animals how they feel when we keep them in pens their entire lives. I'm sorry, but saying that sexual contact with animals is "rape" doesn't pass the test of common sense when you look at all the uses we give various animals and the way we irradicate those that get in the way of human progress.
Zoophilia isn't wrong because it's rape, it's just WRONG...period. Just like homosexuality. Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
Buddha
Last edited by fxashun; 09-17-2007 at 08:07 PM.
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