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Originally Posted by bullwinkle voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.
There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting. | Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two. | And how do you plan to go about that?
People are so stuck between Liberal and Conservative, I could never see this happening. |
The way to implement more parties is at the bottom of every one of my posts  | But how will that help, maybe you should explain this to me. It said to rank the politicians but arent the Liberals going to rank the Liberals high and the Republicans going to rank the Republicans high? I probably need you to explain this to me. |
Let me make a hypothetical scenario so you can have some insight into how IRV can promote more than two parties.
Let's say Oscar the grouch, Ms. Piggy and Kermit were running for office. Oscar is a republican canidate , Ms. Piggy democrat and Kermit is with the green party that care for the environment very much.
Now Oscar is an evil asshole who you really don't want to see in office but your favorite canidate Kermit, who stands for what you believe in, doesn't have as much support as Oscar's main competition Ms. Piggy. In essence a vote for your favorite canidate is giving evil Oscar that much more of a chance to get in office. This is the so called spoiler vote syndrome.
IRV would allow you to rank Kermit 1st, Ms. Piggy 2nd, and Oscar 3rd. If Kermit doesn't get enough of the overall vote your vote counts towards Ms. Piggy and does not help Oscar. This would promote voting for what you believe in and not what you are afraid of or against someone. It would level the playing field for 3rd parties and unlock the centralized power the democrats and republicans currently enjoy. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. |