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Originally Posted by sgtdmski  So first Paine admits that without private property there can be no wealth. I agree wholeheartedly. So as long as the government protects private property we as citizens have an obligation to give a portion of our profits to government for services rendered. Again, no problem.
Now Paine says because we as individuals are irresponsible and cannot manage our money properly, government should step in and do it for us. WHoa!!!Big Problem. Once you give government money, they have a nasty habit of spending it. Now I understand that some people have a bad habit of spending their money and not putting it away for a rainy day. So because of this, we must all pay into a system that serves to only make us all poor in the end. |
BIGGER WHOA!
The system we have now has not made us all poor. What are you talkin' bout?
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Finally Paine reverts to the old and true socialist plea of us all working for the good of society. But why should I work for someone who does not work for themselves??? Why should I pay my bills and give them an allowance to live as well.
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You redefine as
the good for society to a point I would be hard pressed to find anyone I know who would agree to your definition. Who are these people you are talking about who say they support these things?
I do not deny some of that happens, but it is hardly rampant.
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It doesn't work because in the end it breeds resentment. Resentment first from those who work and pay towards those who receive the benefits, and then resentment from those who receive the benefits against those who are successful. Class warfare brings everybody down.
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the resentment seems to have set in close to home, eh?
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Tell me, why is it that the government controls the education system, that they never teach people how money works? I mean, why are there no classes on how you can make your money work for you. Why are there no classes that discuss investment, or teach our children the value of saving a buck???
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We thought families did that. Silly us. But you have a good point. Maybe we should demand schools teach this.
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I tell you why, because if the majority of people finally learned how to succeed, there would be no need for government to continually need to take care of people. As long as the government can continue to keep a segment of the population in misery, they will have a job.
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The grassy knoll? Did you see anyone on the grassy knoll?
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All socialism brings is instead of a few people living in misery, we all will be.
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Really? Socialism does this? Hmmm.
You sound like the Reaganites "Government is the problem" when reality shows it is not. Bad government is the problem and Reagan ran a bad government.
Socialism is not so bad. How one uses it is. It's like guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.