Originally Posted by Ralph

So we are to simply "ignore" a law that is considered humane in its intent, by requesting all those that wish to find gainful employment to simply register to allow accountability in this age of terrorism? You are suggesting breaking the law until such time as these points of question can be overturned to present changes? To work by this logic, we are asked to "sin" in order not to "sin"?

Nope.

Perhaps you didn't read my last post - the one that you quoted - so here it is again.

"I take your rather verbose point about the importance of observing the rule of law, but don't you think the law should be changed to reflect the realities of the immigration situation"





There is nothing wrong in voicing "opinion" or making lobby effort to change the status quo, but until such time it is our Christian duty to abide by the laws of the land, and as of right now, the law states that "all" people must have a "legal" status or face the consequence.

See above.


A perfect example would be the "absurd" opinion of Roe v. Wade which does not recognize the life of the unborn. What happens when anyone challenges this Law outside the legal system, by taking the law into their own hands? Often as not, the ones that claim to be working by the authority of God, inflect more damage upon their cause than does this semantical ruling.

The Apostle Paul address this situation in more clear language of comprehension, "Knowing this, that our man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. FOR HE THAT IS DEAD IS FREED FROM SIN. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him; Knowing that Christ being raised form the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died ONCE; but in that he liveth onto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.......For sin shall not have dominion over you; for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? GOD FORBID. KNOW YE NOT, THAT TO WHOM YE YIELD YOURSELVES TO OBEY, HIS SERVANTS YE ARE TO YE OBEY....."(Romans 6: 6-16). Paul concludes that SIN IS NOT TO BE FLIRTED WITH BUT SHUNNED, no one can accomplish GOOD things by acting in an unlawful(sinful) manner. If one uses Goodness to justify ones action of Sin they are the servant of that which was utilized.

Therefore if indeed there is injustice, it must be addressed in a "lawful" nature, for as much as we are told this man made conception, THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS, we as people of true Christian faith know that it is just not so.

Anyone can have a difference of opinion when considering things of a political nature, but one should abide by the faith in which they profess to be servants thereof. Religious faith is not a political tool to be used to slant opinion in one direction or another, one should abide within the limits that are set in its entirety, and not "cherry pick" passages that only agree with their personal ideology and leave the rest as simply to be considered "unreasonable". As I said, present the ideology of change, vote on it, let the law of the land be paramount, but live by its democratically gained results. But do not use the ideology of religion to feign a needed change, by telling people that to accomplish this change we must first sacrifice our faith by the action of SIN.

Like I said, I believe the Roe v. Wade opinion to be both illogical and absurd, but what do I accomplish by going out and perhaps bombing a family planning clinic, is this godliness? Of course not, the change must come from the place that controls the morality within this nation. THE HEART OF ITS PEOPLE. "WE THE PEOPLE" Ralph