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Old 01-14-2008, 03:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DefensorFortis View Post
You sound as though, in person, you could be someone to have a real and reasonable discussion on many topics... I have friends who are Dem/Lib/Socialist types... we agree to disagree on many topics... b ut it always amazes me how they enjoy the benefits of a Republican Democracy and how they can curse it in the same breath while quoting dogmatically from Marx to the Holy Bible on how life should be lived and NONE of it has to do with PERSONAL Responsibility, working and earning from physical/mental sweat & blood, sacrifice for family, community, state & nation... and no... their minds usually so open their brains fall out but they come darn close on many ocassions...
I usually attempt to keep a civil tone, though usually that tone doesn't carry over well through text.

I would not like to live in a place where we all agreed, that goes against the grain of my philosophy. I've read a lot of Marx, and indeed I do quote him a lot, but I don't think it necessarily goes against your statement of "PERSONAL Responsibility, working and earning from physical/mental sweat & blood, sacrifice for family, community, state & nation" but in many instances compliments it. Democracy is complimentary to socialist ideas because socialism is merely the application of democracy to the socio-economic strata. Usually, I'd say, capitalism encompasses either working hard in exploitation or working hard in selfishness. No one said everything is provided for you in communism; it just takes the emphasis off of exploitation and on cooperation.
"If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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