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Old 01-29-2008, 12:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Actually the mayor appoints the Housing Commisson board and the staff here are city employee's. This is a city Housing Commission. So the elected officials are responsable for illegaly paying for the cable TV. Not the tenants. The petition said to fix the cable,not shut it off.

I'm not upset about the out come of the cable because the recpetion was bead because of old wiring in the building. They would have had to be replaced anyways because they would not have picked up the digital signals that the government is swithcing to from anolog signals.

I'm also not saying my First Amendment Rights are being violated because I'm disabled. They are being violated because the U.S. Constitution says I have the right to petition the government without punishment but I am now being harrassed and discriminated against.
ROTFLMAOL!

1. It may be city housing, but the managers are civilians and not elected officials. And they are the ones that do 'add ons', not the city.

2. No, the management was the one responsible for funneling tax payer money towards illegal cable, not the city officials. The city officials trusted the management not to abuse the system...Unfortunately their trust was misplaced.

3. The petition may have said 'fix the cable' and not 'cut cable off', but it was because of your petition that it resulted in it being cut off. Now those that had that 'extra' are upset they no longer have access to it...And since it was you who got them all fired up to complain in written form...That puts the blame on you. If not for your approaching them, encouraging them to complain, they wouldn't have done so and would still have access to their cable...Even bad reception, it was perferable then none at all.

4. Obviously you are upset about it...Your opening post was about how you were being blamed for it's loss. So trying to say otherwise is deception on your own part.

5. The city wouldn't have addressed the issue of cable change in the future, to begin with. Not unless the management approached them about it, and in that case, HUD still would have cut off free access to cable once the city investigated WHY the management was calling for a 'cable upgrade' and discovered that ya'll were getting free cable versus you were paying out of your own pockets for cable access.

6. I didn't say you said your first admendment rights were being violated because of your disability...I was referring to your comment "put the blame on a disabled guy". Nobody was putting the blame on you cause you are disabled. They're putting the blame on you because you were the one who started the petition. Period.

7. How was your first admendment rights being violated? Simply put, they were not. You weren't kept from creating that petition at all. You did so, forwarded it to those you wanted to address your situation, and then a determination was made based off the information collected from your petition as well as the investigation prompted by that petition of the management of your housing complex...

And your petition, which was allowed to occure, resulted in the free cable access being denied to those receiving goverment housing benefits.

You are not being punished by 'the goverment' for creating and sending in a petition. You are being punished by your fellow tenants for their losing their free access to cable at the benefit/misuse of tax payer funds. Period.

You're being 'harrassed and discriminated' by the people in your building, not the goverment. And they are doing it, because they aren't taking responsibility for their own actions of signing your petition in complaint too.

Sorry to tell you this, but like I already said, just cause you can do something doesn't mean it'll turn out the way you wish it to once you do it...

And in this case, you wished to create a petition, which you did so...
You wished to present that petition to the authorities to review and make a judgement, which they did...

But you didn't get the answer to that petition you desired so now you have to face your neighbors and their anger at you for taking away something they didn't want to lose.

That's not the goverment's fault. That's not your goverment harrassing/discriminating against you. Nor is it a violation of your first amendment rights either. Because at no time did 'the goverment' stop or keep you from doing what you did. And it's not them now blaming you for what resulted from your actions...But those others who participated with you, who now are on the lossing end of the actions you started in the first place.

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