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Old 01-31-2008, 03:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well, my response just before this one was off the top of my head. IF you want the facts and not propaganda that Arabs have been handing out since the beginning of time, you can refer to this website for the historical timeline of the area. If Katczinsky doesn't like this information, he can always cling to the false information he's been fed. Most die-hards do. I prefer to know the facts...not some selected "facts" of those it's been proven to have an agenda.

Anyway, how did my thread on Ron Paul turn into a Middle East war zone? Oh! I remember. Grace was saying that the Bible says that ALL the nations in the world will soon turn on Israel. So....I ask Grace. Did you ever think that America might not be around to protect Israel?

Here's my belief: The little land in Israel is not the only country in the world that the Bible refers to when it says "Israel". Undoubtedly, in 1948 when they chose the name, it was because of their forefather Jacob whose name was changed by God to "Israel".

But believe it or not, Grace, we, in America are Israelites. The U.S. is the House of Mannaseh. There were 10 tribes who migrated north after their Assyrian captivity and spread into Europe and beyond.

Here is a chapter from Prophecy Fulfilled: God's Hand in World Affairs:

Does the Bible Mention the USA and UK?

Abraham was promised that his descendants would be as the sand on the seashore (Genesis 22:16–17). This promise was passed to his grandson, Jacob. God changed Jacob’s name to Israel, and told him his descendants would include a “nation and a company of nations” (Genesis 35:10–12). In his old age, Jacob passed these great promises on to his grandsons, Ephraim and Manasseh (Genesis 48:15–20). These promises were not just to be “top dog” in the Middle East. The descendants of Israel were to be “high above all nations” (Deuteronomy 26:19).

Where and when did God fulfill these promises? The kingdoms of David and Solomon were great, but did they fit this description? No! Although Solomon’s kingdom was probably the wealthiest of its day, it was a single nation, not a “nation and a company of nations.” Furthermore, its size and population were very small compared to the Chinese empire at the time. Since Solomon, no nation headquartered at Jerusalem could claim to be “high above all nations.” Has God forgotten these many promises over the long years?

Certainly not! The answer is found in 1 Kings 12 and 2 Kings 17, 24 and 25. After the death of King Solomon, Israel and Judah became separate nations and are still separate today! Israel was conquered by Assyria, and then Judah was conquered by Babylon, more than 100 years later. Both were deported, but only a portion of the nation of Judah returned!

It is a fascinating story, too long to tell in this booklet, but the facts are there. The modern-day nation calling itself “Israel” is really the descendant of the ancient kingdom of Judah—the Jews. The ancient kingdom of Israel lost its identity and is now “as the sand which is on the seashore”—the U.S., Britain, Australia, Canada and much of northwestern Europe. The biblical and historical evidence is there, though many prefer to ignore it. Together, we are the physical descendants of the biblical patriarch Israel. The Almighty will rebuke and chasten us for our mounting sins, just as He does every son He loves (Hebrews 12:6).

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