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Old 02-18-2008, 02:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky View Post
Even if Obama sweeps from now until the convention, he probably still won't have the needed number of delegates to officially have the nomination. He has to win like in the 60's with Clinton in the 30's in most of the major states (including Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania) to even have enough delegates. The former scenario is rare enough, and the latter we can probably agree upon to be impossible.

I seriously think when it comes down to it, this thing will either be decided by the superdelegates or by the re-inclusion of Florida's and Michigan's delegates. Either way it sounds like bad news for Obama. The real question is if he can gain enough pledged delegates to present a good enough argument at the convention for superdelegates to decide not to overturn the democratic decision of the people.

As for Obama being a part of the ticket no matter what, I think it's highly highly unlikely that Clinton would decide to put Obama on the ticket. It's much more likely that we'll see a Clinton-Edwards or Obama-Edwards ticket.
I disagree with you that it is unlikely for Hillary to include Obama as part of the ticket should she win. First, because with all the turmoil in her campaign; I don't think she can win. Second, Nobody has yet to explain the continued and expanding support Obama is receiving.
It is not just coming from the African-American vote. Obama is not running a campaign on the "vote for me because I'm Black" platform. People are disillusioned with the recent past in politics, and are nor clamoring for a change. Hillary is being veiwed as a part of that past; where nothing will change.
The funny thing is; I don't foresee either of them actually getting enough delegates on their own. But I foresee many of Hillary's delegates jumping ship to support Obama coming soon if she cannot turn her campaign around and get back on track. So far, Obama is what the people want to see on the Dem ticket-one way or another.

Last edited by nuttyjoe; 02-19-2008 at 10:52 PM.