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Originally Posted by waitingtables  So, it's necessary to invade a country that did nothing to us, so the terrorists fight us there? |
If this is a war where the goal is to win, then yes its nesessary.
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I guess those Iraqis aren't entitled to be safe from terrorists?
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Even better, there are entitled to be free from a horrible dictator, who tortured, and murdered millions of his own people with WMD's. The goal isnt to let terrorists run Iraq, but to crush them.
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And there is no way that waterboarding is going to save the lives of millions. That is a crock.
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Why is that a crock?? You think if there where such a plan, that they would just tell us cause they were in jail??
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Who are you to say that waterboarding does no harm? Have you been waterboarded? Simulated drowning is harmless?
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Yes, it is harmless. We do it to OUR OWN SERVICE MEN. We dont put them through anything that we dont expect the very men and women that protect us to go through.
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And that terrible dictator actually gave women the chance to have an education and a career.
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Do you really want open SH's resume in leading Iraq?? Trust me, no you dont.
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Not to mention that we are the ones who propped up that terrible dictator so he could fight Iran.
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Had we known what type of leader he would become, we wouldnt have. NTM that just makes us all the more responcible to remove him.
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It seems to me that your understanding of war and this enemy is not very good.
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Maybe so, but I understand enough not to lay down to this enemy, unlike you.
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The reason they hate us is due to our presence in those countries, so that we can insure that the oil flow doesn't dry up.
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The only presents we had in the ME (until the iraq war) was with allies. We had no presents in Iraq, Iran, Syria, ect ect. We are only in places were we are welcome to be. Places like SA, KW, Israel, ect ect. Why would they hate us for being in countries that welcome us there?? They hate us cause we support Israel, and wont let them commit the next holocaust. Which they have already tried to 3 times now. "For 3 transgressions even for four, behold the city of Damascus will be taken away from being a city, it shall be a ruinous heap"
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And that we provide security to the House of Saud, which the extremists would like to be rid of. And of course our support for Israel. And of course for the very arrogance that you have shown, in the way that Americans assume the world is ours to with whatever we like. And the hell that is Iraq, was not necessary.
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Of course we support SA, we have interest there. Without the flow of SA oil, our entire way of life will get thrown back into the 1800's. Its in our best interests that SA is stabble. Do you like driving your car, or heating your house?? When you are ready to give all that up, then you can talk to me in a moraly superior way, till then, keep racking up those miles.
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As for your murdering of innocent children comment, how many innocent children who are already born have been killed in Iraq? You don't have a problem killing them once they're here, only before they're born. That is a very strange way to respect life.
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I most certainly DO have a problem with it. I just see it from a better point of view, and place blame where it belongs. I blame the cowerds who want to fight a war with out a uniform, and hide among women and children. You defend a people who's GOAL is to kill women and children. How many women and children have died in Iraq at the hands of terrorists?? These people BOMB THERE OWN CHURCHES.