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Originally Posted by waitingtables Jesus never bestowed apostolic titles on any gentiles either, but that hasn't stopped the church from ordaining them. The church has gone out of it's way to supress women, on more than one occasion or crusade. I wonder what the fear is? That maybe it wasn't a man that was given the keys to Christ's ministry, and that maybe their version of the scripture isn't the correct one? What else is one to think? | You will find no ordained women in the church that Jesus constructed in the first century, you may find some that worship in the "custom of men" in a "denominational" offshoot of the true Christian faith, that certainly do not draw their authority from the scriptures in such instance. And, there certainly is not "versions" of the truth. Someone can have any "opinion" they wish, but they are entitled only to ONE TRUTH, as truth does not come in degrees, it's truth or it's not. Should we practice our faith in a manner to "tickle the ears" of society, or should we strive to find the truth and once having found it mold our lives around it instead of trying to mold the truth to fit our choices? Perhaps God indeed gave mankind the gift of woman to be a companion and a helpful lover that we are commanded to consider as we would ourself, but just as woman was created from the flesh of man, man was created in God's image to serve Him, God does not serve man. It is our soul duty of this life to seek out God and serve Him, period. (Acts 17:24-28, Ecclesiastes 12:13). And we are commanded to do such in both, TRUTH and SPIRIT--John 4:21-24. And just where do ones find this truth? In the WORD. (John 17:17) And I would like someone to point out just how ANYONE could be ordained an apostle, considering the qualifier for such was by "direct" appointment of Christ Jesus, either in person or by proxy of the Holy Spirit, consider the scriptural qualifiers for such---They must have personally borne witness to the ministry of Christ-- l John 1:1-3, Acts 1:21-22. They were not "appointed" by men but Christ Himself made the appointment--Acts 1:8. They were part of the foundation to the church--Eph. 2:19-20. The authority that they held was not their own or from men, but the Lords authority delegated to them--- ll Peter 3:1-2. There is no "well" in which to draw upon to be "ordained" and Apostle of Christ. Thus, what we have are people that "pretend" to be Apostles, false apostles. Ralph
Last edited by Ralph; 02-23-2008 at 10:06 PM.
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