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Originally Posted by paradoxymoron  FX: As I was saying earlier, you're doing nothing here than launching off the assumption that "the desire to have sex with a man" is deviant. It's not an axiom, it's not been been proven and invalidates the arguments as it is begging the question. "Why are homosexual acts deviant?" "Because homosexual desires are deviant." Okay. Show that homosexual desires are deviant. | Well in that case, neither has sex with children and animals been "proven deviant" using the criteria used by homosexuals. Since sex doesn't have to be procreative, waiting for sexual maturity doesn't matter. And since we don't have to worry about physiological compatibility, why not "screw the pooch" too. I'm not launching from the assumption that a "desire to have sex with a man" bullshit, I'm basing it on the fact that any reason that supports homosexuality also can clearly translate to pedo and zoofie. And until you can find a reason that a person will be born with an unnatural desire such as that, I don't see any other logical approach to this issue. "Consent" is not gonna cut it as it is doesn't matter. Homosexual desires are deviant for the same reasons that the other sexual desires are.
And if there were any proof that humans, mammals, complex life forms were supposed to be born gay, you would have no problem giving that reason. Instead you are left with the bullshit, "no it's not" that you gave above. Quote: |
All that's irrelevant though. I don't know why you just don't post a dictionary definition. Deviant: deviating from the norm. There. Homosexual behaviour is deviant according to the definition of the word. So what? I've been deviating from the norm all my life.
| I use "deviant" because it more respectful to the community here than "fucked up" "freakish" "dysfunctional" "broke" etc. Quote: |
I think you've been trying to use "deviant" to mean "not functioning properly, according to nature". Now _there_ is a statement you have to prove.
| Well I would also have to prove it for zoophilia and pedo. Especially zoofie since it's legal in many places. And again, when viewed in the context of all of the other urges that people are born with, sexual deviant desires seem to be alone in not being provided for by our bodies. We have entire systems to make use of oxygen. We have an entire digestive system to make use of available resources. And we have sensory systems to be able to perceive the environment around us. Even our sexual systems compliment male/female to a tee. If you look at our bodies and how under heterosexuality they compliment each other, then compare that to homosexuals, pedophiles, and zoophiles, I don't see how you can't come to the conclusion that a person born that way is NOT dysfunctional. And if you disagree, explain to me how you come to the conclusion that you aren't. I'm not asking you to "prove" anything. Just show the extreme rationality that it takes to get comfortable living gay and thinking you aren't deviant. This is my new signature. |