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Old 03-02-2008, 02:01 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by waitingtables View Post
No that isn't the issue. It is that the government can wiretap domestic calls. That means citizens, not foreigners. And my calls aren't private if they want to listen, that is the whole point here. It is illegal and unconstitutional.
ILLEGAL- Hmmm against the law. Wait a minute, the Congress of the United States has passed the law given the President the right to do just such a thing. Hmmm. Its a law passed by Congress. Guess what by definition it is legal. Strike One!!!!

Unconstitutional - against the constitution. The 4th Amendment states that "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated". But wait a minute, although the meaning may be clear and simple to those of us, we all know that the Constitution says what the Justices of the Supreme Court say it says. How do we know this??? Quite easily, no where in the Constitution is the Word Abortion, yet it is a Constitutionally protected right established under Privacy, again a word that is not in the Constitution. But where did these rights come from, why of course from the pnuembras.

So you see we lay folks cannot truly know what the Constitution actually says, instead we have to wait until the nine members of the Court tell us. And they have told us in many a cases that civil liberties are trumped by National Security. Remember the Court ruled the detainment of Japanese Americans during WWII as Constitutional.

So it would not seem that since National Security trumps civil liberties the law is also contitutional. Hmmm Strike Two.

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