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Old 03-14-2008, 06:22 PM   #60 (permalink)
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And I have said that some her supporters support her because she is a woman..she has said some of her supporters support her because she is a woman ..she has also said that she'd not be in the position she is in as a woman without already being a household name. So I never denied it..

what I did say is we need to stop pretending that people are not supporting Obama because of his race. And if he really wants to open conversations with people perhaps he could start with his fellow countryman and stop calling everyone a racist who mentions or says something about his race or race generally. Its a cop out position, its a throw away easy target, that is really hard to rebutt given the fact the media isn't inerested in news but in the most sensational headline they can think of. Anyone that isn't one of his supporters that mention his race gets painted racist which not only makes his lets not be divisive stance rubbish but pisses people off.

I never said he wasn't appealing to people, I never said he wasn't a good politician and good public speaker, which is something we have been missing these past 7 years. What I did say is calling everyone a racist who happens to think like Ferraro or who mention his race a racist is divisive and dis-enfranchises people. Some of these people are democrats and will vote democrat no matter who is the candidate but some fo them are going to resent it and vote for McCain (who is going to be the GOP candidate unless they decide for some weird reason not to give him the nod at the Convention). These are the people I am concerned about. Also Hilary has won every single swing state..lets just pretend the status quo will stay and look at swing states, she is more appealing to people in swing States. Hilary has bought out people to vote in primaries who normally do not as well. Why even pretend she hasn't, she isn;t that far behind.

I believe what Obama has done is a great fantastic given our country but I also think what Hilary has done is also one. I am suprprised at the amount of people who in an effort to not sound racist sound like sexist pigs. But he is going to get his butt kicked because his kumbahyah lets teach the world to sing in harmony style only appeals to a certain and limited amount of people, other people think he is a pretentious idealist (as opposed to realist) and or isn't going to win they'd be the people voting for Hilary and McCain because anyone can vote in the Dems primary even a registered member of the GOP.

All experience means in DC is being able to come back with a really good sound bite..McCain is great at them..Obama sort of sucks (racist and we can do it) and Hilary is somewhere in between she is pretty hit and miss.

Obama said about Lincoln Lets not pretend he was the great emancipator.....not that I ever pretended he was but talk about undermine what was a pretty amazing achievement for its time. Give Lincoln his dues.

If he is the Dems candidate he has to stop calling people racists everytime they mention he happens to be black or has a question about it and talk with them or else his whole campaign is way to easily painted as a load of horse crap. McCain is going to go hey Mr lets talk to our enemies you can't even have a dialogue with your own countryman how the hell are you going to get people who don't want to talk to us to talk when you can't even talk to your own countryman. Obama isn't wooing independent voters he is attractive to people who watched to much Star Trek and believe the Prime Directive and African Americans. I have Black friends who voted for him because he is black, they think he speaks a shit load of crap but he is black and so voted for him.

Interesting you should mention JFK..he had an affair and got us into Vietnam. The good thing about Hilary is there is no dirt everyone knows everything about her because her husband did weird things with cigars and the GOP went after him for it...

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