Originally Posted by waitingtables

And Gary for all your hot air, you are forgetting that women are stuck with these losers because unfortunately, a great deal of men behave that way. Perhaps you should take that up with others of your gender and find a possible solution. Sorry if I offend the men out there, but facts are facts, and the lower you go on the economic scale, the more prevalent it is. I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions, my husband isn't wealthy, and he does provide for us. But we came to a mutual agreement that I would stay at home with the kids and he would work full time. But since we aren't wealthy enough to do that, I work part time nights and weekends to make up the difference. Then he's home with them, while I'm working. Not all men do that though. Many just leave, or some other variant occurs. And not all men are telegraphing to the world that they are really scumbags in a good man's costume. Stop blaming women for men's shortcomings and figure out your own mal-adaptations, Gary.

I'm not blaming women for men's shortcomings, nor am I excusing that kind of flaky, loser male. I have no time nor respect for men like that.

I'm saying the woman still has a choice about who will father her children - if anyone - and she needs to make that choice very carefully.

After the father disappears into the night, and she is left with the children, it's too late.




And you can't make laws that discriminate against the kids who don't have great parents, Gary, which I think are the majority anymore, unfortunately.

You mean like laws that require children to attend school? Even though their parents can't help them with homework or provide any encouragement?

I agree you can't make laws that will magically right all wrongs and balance out all disadvantages, but that doesn't mean we should use the law to give children or parents an excuse for avoiding responsibility.







I'm curious as to the backgrounds that you two came from, Gary and Grace. You don't have to satisfy it, but I wish you would. I'm sensing that it might be a lack of experience in life that allows you both to think our world is peaches and cream, leave it to beaver-esque.