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Old 04-11-2008, 07:31 PM   #96 (permalink)
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So many misrepresentations of "Half Truths". Life imprisonment does not "guarantee" that any murderer will not or cannot murder again in prison, as in fact there are graduated instances of crime, some criminals that have lost their lives in prison for committing some lesser crime against society have clearly been victimized by "cold blooded" murderers that should have been relieved of their God Given right to exist. That is unless, you value the life of someone convicted of prostitution management or drug traffic less than the public at large. If you do, that is not very Christian of you. By what cognation of logic is it deemed right that a man serving 1-3 for some minimal offense be sentenced to death while serving this minimal term? Just what "deterrable" actions are convicted murderers afraid of to stop them from killing again, and again? What can they lose, perhaps get another life sentence added on top of the first? And we, the tax payer are to pay for their supported life, while they practice their evil traits?

Can you provide chapter and verse from the Bible that says we should NOT do that??

Or is this another one of your opinions??




Again, you present your opinion and do not back it up by scriptural observations, but still DECLARE A HALF TRUTH AS COMPLETE, like I just proved.....YOU SAID, THAT LIFE IMPRISONMENT STOPS SOMEONE FROM MURDERING AGAIN, and Declared it a fact, and I proved that it was not.

This happens so infrequently I don't see how you can seriously use it as a justification for capital punishment.

As a corollary I could point to all the occasions when an innocent man has been executed, and surely that is murder in God's eyes?







Again, if God finds it acceptable to punish those (with capital punishment) who premeditatedly have taken the life of another without due process of His righteous judgment, what Scriptures can you point to that Declares that it is WRONG? If you could, I am sure you would have pointed them out, if not I now ask you to present them. If you can not, you are guilty of presenting opinion, not the will of God presented in the Scriptures.

I have reviewed the two scriptures you provided and gave you a response in my last post - have you read it?


And again you have failed to actually "read" the scriptures presented, or you would not falsely accuse me of declaring that God presents evil governments as righteous, for they (the Scriptures) indeed declare that they (all governments) are allowed to exist only by the will of God (Romans 13:1-2), but for them to be considered a righteous Government, they must be under the control of GOOD, God fearing men, for God declares that it is their duty to punish the evil and reward the righteous (Romans 13:3-4), if they do not they are considered evil themselves but still they exist by the will of God only,and still can be used by God to do his will, even if they do not realize such. (Isaiah 19:1-2). As Jesus himself pointed out -- John 19:11. And the prophet Daniel declares that God establishes all kingdoms, both good and evil -- Daniel 2:21, 4:17

So you are suggesting that the Taliban governed Afghanistan with God's blessing and were carrying out His will when they butchered women and children in public

And Hitler's genocide against 6m Jews was also part of God's plan??

Both govts would claim to be run by God-fearing men, so presumably they meet the qualifying criteria that you posit?





As I said, please present the Book, Chapter, and verse that declares "Capital Punishment" as an unjust measure, in the eyes of God. If not, why should we listen to your opinions and dismiss clear and declarative scriptures? (R)
Had you read my previous post before responding you would have seen that I already provided one for starters:

Try Exodus 20:13 Thou shall not kill