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Old 04-22-2008, 12:16 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky View Post
Really? Misinformed? Perhaps you could provide me with the data that would inform me, because all the TANF data I've seen has shown me that the large majority of welfare recipients are either working or unemployed and looking for work. And it is unclear of the circumstances of even those who are categorized as unemployed and 'not' looking for work. To me this data would indicate that abuse is the exception.



I do not deny that the welfare system needs reforming. If you don't understand the circumstances of what you're dealing with then you can never fix it. Understanding and empathy isn't naive or idealistic, on the contrary it's practical and the only way we're going to effectively address the problem of both welfare and poverty.



Which is why according to the United States Department of Justice, 55.7% of violent crimes were committed by whites and 25.3% were Black (with 12.9% by "Other" and 6.1% "unknown"). (28).

And yet 70% of those imprisoned are non-white (CPIC-University of NY).

The only misinformed conclusion is the suggest that racism isn't involved in the issue, and that the 'black man' in the inner city is the 'boogeyman' out to get you when you're walking your streets.
Ok, so you're saying that the reason 70% of those imprisoned are non-white is because we are a racist society and they didn't really commit any crime? Furthermore, are you implying that white people get off free from the same given crime than a black person would?

Are you denying that the crime rate in Washington DC is disgustly high and that the majority of those commiting the crimes are black?

I don't think your sentiments are an issue of racism, but that of political correctness. You can't admit that, on a percentage basis, black people commit more crimes than whites. You can't admit, on a percentage basis, black people are bilking the welfare system more than whites.

I know there are societal and historical reasons for the race disparity in the issues stated above. I am not naive enough (or racist enough) to suggest that black people are in anyway inferior to white people. I'm just going by the facts as they lay.

It's hard to attack a problem without properly defining it first. It's even harder when you're forced to do it with kid gloves.