| Congressional Representative Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender:  Posts: 2,118 Country:  Points: 15,426, Level: 80 | Level up: 16%, 424 Points needed | | Gary the point is not about whether or not a four year old is capable of caring for themselves, it was about when a fetus is viable outside of the womb. Once a baby is born and can live outside it's mother, with whatever means necessary to keep it alive, it is a person. Before that, it is not a seperate entity from it's mother. |