Grace;

What do you suppose our gun crime rate would look like if you excluded illegals in the country. Or what it would look like excluding unregistered fire arms.

every country has unregistered firearms and illegal immigrants. these issues are not unique to america. even if they were, are you suggesting that illegal immigrants are responsible for the majority of your gun crimes? and, BTW, where do you think unregistered firearms come from? they come from shops selling under the counter or from thefts of guns from law abiding people. if you had less guns, you would have less unregistered guns too.

I bet it would be similar to other countries.

interesting speculation. so you need to make border security tighter and remove the unregistered guns from the hands of criminals. how are you going to do that without reforming your gun laws?

You would also have to consider pound for pound the difference in size of other countries.

yes, this is important. absolute number of deaths is not really very useful. the usual statistic used in homicide is number of deaths per 100 000 population. in australia the figure is 1.5 and 16% are gun related

in america it is 5.5 and 80% are gun related.