05-14-2008, 11:48 AM
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| Partisan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Gender:  Posts: 11,784 Country:  Points: 39,391, Level: 100 | Level up: 0%, 0 Points needed | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan Why should anyone have to justify their beliefs to you?
But what I DON'T have to do for anyone, anywhere, at any time is "prove" that Wicca is a "real" religion.
If you don't want to think it is, then that is your choice. I know my beliefs are real and that there is truth to them for me. Why so defensive?
See how your supposed bisexuality and wicca beliefs reveal so much about your deep-seated defensive victim status!
If you have really decided to base your life philosophy on wicca, why would you be so coy about discussing it with other people?
Could it be because you just want to appear "different"? Or maybe you don't fully understand what wicca is?
And you actually managed to bring up a good and interesting question when you were replying earlier to the answers I gave to some of your questions. You asked: How would you differentiate predestination from a "grand design"?
Well, predestination is the idea that some intelligence out there already has decided for us how our lives are going to go, and in the case of the Christian belief, if you are going to go to Heaven or Hell. The idea of a "grand design" is that we all have our various parts to play in where we are in life, and that all of our lives are interconnected somehow. But we all have our own free will and the direction our lives take is ultimately up to us. Also, that we are where we are in life for a reason, because we have some lesson to learn from it all.
So what is the difference?
But you will hear many Wiccans and Pagans, from time to time, say things like that they are doing the "will of the gods" or something similar. I don't think that most of them think that they are literally doing what some other entity up in the sky wants them to do, as Christians tend to believe, but more that they are playing their part in the grand design, since we see the deities that we "worship" as manifestations or personifications of the "overall creative force" that I mentioned earlier. We do believe that we are here for a purpose, but we also acknowledge that we have choices in our lives that affect ourselves and others. |
That is also Christian doctrine - men and women have free choice over believing in God and accepting redemption. knowuryder: and I should care what some dullard on a message board thinks about me because why exactly? |