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Originally Posted by hot dragon  i said that you will need access to a library with an institutional subscription to access these. i am guessing you do not have such access. but still feel able to argue with those people who do. | I actually have access to the media of a learning hospital. Speak on facts that you know please. Quote: |
nobody is suggesting you are supposed to be gay. all mammalian populations have variety, it is essential to their survival. straight is the most common variety of sexuality in the human species. it is your variety and it is healthy. but the other varieties are equally healthy and although they may be less common, they are no less normal.
| I didn't say "me", I said any mammalian species. Straight isn't a variety. It's that standard. Homosexuality is an aberration. Quote: |
nobody is suggesting you are supposed to be white. all mammalian populations have variety, it is essential to their survival. pale skin is the most common variety of skin tone. it is my variety, and it is healthy. but the other varieties are equally healthy and although they may be less common, they are no less normal.
| Skin color has nothing to do with sexuality though. And the variations can be repeated and proven. No such luck with homosexuality. Social acceptance of skin color and scientific support for it's existence are sparate issues. There is nothing aberrant about white or black skin. Blue might bring a second glance though. Homosexuality is the epidermal equivalent of a blue human. Quote: |
just makes then f**ked up, right?
| Right. Each in their own way. People with heart issue have a f'd up heart. Blind people have something f'd up somewhere between their eyes and brain. Any number of maladies can cause anything from color blindness to total blindness. Quote: |
i don't argue. but vitiligo is abberant when compared to how that individual should be on the basis of their physiology, genetics and evolution. homosexuality is totally normal when compared to the individual.
| So is pedo and zoofie and a few other behavior based maladies. Not a good standard you got there. Quote: |
yes they do. read them. oh, you cannot. ok, try listening to those people who have read them then. wait a minute, they disagree with you !!
| Ass-u-me too much don't we? I have read plenty that disagree with me. And none of what I have read has presented homosexuality as a distinct purposely evolved human trait. In fact, if any of myriad reports you just listed had any really relevant information toward that end, there are PLENTY of gay researchers, bloggers, and activists that would have a wet dream to post something regarding them online. It wouldn't be relegated to some back corner of a hard drive somewhere. Ga folk would be passing it out on street corners. The silence regarding that compelling "evidence" you presented is deafening considering some of it is years old. Quote: |
which is what some of them do. you are fishing for a reason to disregard the evidence.
| Nope, I'm looking for the evidence. So far theres nothing to disregard. Just a lot of "look at me I'm normal because I am" bullshit. Any dumbass could say that. Quote: |
this reference was included to illustrate the fact that sexuality is far more complex than you would think. and that sexual behaviour is about more than reproduction. also, it is well recognised in the life sciences that very closely related species frequently share lots of features. it is not proof by any means, but suggestive. the sexuality of one primate species is likely to be similar to the sexuality of a close biological relative. we are very similar (although not identical) to bonobos in almost every way, why not sexually?
| Not really. SEX is simple. A human can have sex with picnic table. That doesn't mean that he loves a picnic table. Until we can conduct interviews with animals, assuming we know the intent of what they do is a gross assumption. All kindsa crap happens in the animals kingdom, just like in humans. How do we know there aren't Bonodos looking at those homosexual acting couples with the same Bonobo disgust as humans do? This is my new signature. |