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Originally Posted by Ralph  First things first. 1.) Corporations produce "work" which in turn produces employment for "individual taxation", and in the end these "mean old corporations" provide the MAJORITY of income to these United States of America. Yet, we wish to tax them into "bankruptcy", thus the wish to "outsource" to other parts of the world. | Irrelevancy seems to be your game. Individual tax is not corporate tax and vice versa. The former is a taxation on money earned through the trade of your labor (minus taxations on those who earn profits), and the latter is inevitably a taxation on profits of an organization (accumulation of unpaid labor).
To tax this source of unpaid labor and redistribute them as public services is moral IMHO. Obviously total income redistribution can't work under the heading of capitalism and even as a socialist I will have to extend some truth to your arguments.
A lot of people earn their paychecks by employment in corporations. But if it is corporations you are arguing then perhaps you will have a hard time finding an example of one corporation being "taxed into bankrupcy" by corporate tax rates in the United States. Such a case would indeed be curious.
The ones you call communists and socialists merely want to tease the working class with scraps of meat instead of the original revolutionary idea of overthrowing all existing means of production.
Comparing the contemporary epoch to earlier ones is always helpful. I'm not just interested in taxing the slave owner to death and giving all those benefits to the slave, but rather I am interested in emancipation. Quote: |
2.) DEFENSE is indeed a constitutionally mandated need and in fact, the very first reason as given by our founders in "constructing" a CENTRAL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to PROTECT "WE THE PEOPLE/STATES" in a common endeavor.
| Have I said anything that would threaten this mandate?
The founders also believed strongly against standing armies and involving the country in foreign wars and alliance systems....go figure. Quote: |
3.) SOCIALISM is not a constitutionally mandated concept.(In fact our constitution declares as a mandate that all STATES "must" maintain a "republican" form of government...Art. 4, Section 4, for reference see the "Federal Papers" Federalist Papers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Irrelevant. Freedom for slaves wasn't a constitutionally mandated concept either. In fact the original Constitution actually protected slavery for a set period of time. Quote: |
4.) Close to 10 trillion dollars in any social endeavor is by far a greater waste as compared to monies spent (1/10th compared to the WAR ON POVERTY) in the defense of our nation,
| You seem to continue to pull numbers out of your ass even after credible sources were requested of you. Quote: |
where if it were not defended...THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR SOCIALIZATION...of any nature, as historically exampled by the USSR, Cuba...etc, as they found out indeed that it was IMPOSSIBLE to maintain any kind of SUPER POWER status of military strength and defense....WITHOUT THE EXAMPLE OF CAPITALISM to feed the monetary coffers and PRODUCE products for GLOBAL CONSUMPTION.
| Indeed, imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism. The heritage foundation? How about I just supply articles written by Communists in ISO's International Socialist Review to supplement my argument? How would you feel about that? Or you could perhaps look for some objective source? "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche
Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 |