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Originally Posted by Katczinsky  Irrelevancy seems to be your game. Individual tax is not corporate tax and vice versa. The former is a taxation on money earned through the trade of your labor (minus taxations on those who earn profits), and the latter is inevitably a taxation on profits of an organization (accumulation of unpaid labor).
To tax this source of unpaid labor and redistribute them as public services is moral IMHO. Obviously total income redistribution can't work under the heading of capitalism and even as a socialist I will have to extend some truth to your arguments.
A lot of people earn their paychecks by employment in corporations. But if it is corporations you are arguing then perhaps you will have a hard time finding an example of one corporation being "taxed into bankrupcy" by corporate tax rates in the United States. Such a case would indeed be curious.
The ones you call communists and socialists merely want to tease the working class with scraps of meat instead of the original revolutionary idea of overthrowing all existing means of production.
Comparing the contemporary epoch to earlier ones is always helpful. I'm not just interested in taxing the slave owner to death and giving all those benefits to the slave, but rather I am interested in emancipation.
Have I said anything that would threaten this mandate?
The founders also believed strongly against standing armies and involving the country in foreign wars and alliance systems....go figure.
Irrelevant. Freedom for slaves wasn't a constitutionally mandated concept either. In fact the original Constitution actually protected slavery for a set period of time.
You seem to continue to pull numbers out of your ass even after credible sources were requested of you.
Indeed, imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.
The heritage foundation? How about I just supply articles written by Communists in ISO's International Socialist Review to supplement my argument? How would you feel about that? Or you could perhaps look for some objective source? | Its really quite amusing how you "opined" your way through a presentation of verbosity, while never challenging any of the "facts" presented with anything other than pompous "OPINION". And as far as pulling the numbers out of "MY ASS", it is easily demonstrated by your "lack" of presenting any challenge to the "Charts" presented with "Actual" economic indicators of the "true" expenditure of dealing with the "WAR ON POVERTY" as any reason for the vast over taxation of both Corporate American and "Blue Collar" America....that "you" indeed have NOTHING but OPINION to base your verbosity on. And speaking of "irrelevant", the industry of slavery was abolished by the "constitutional" methodology of a changing society....a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, ratified by .75% of the then states of the union and not by the opinion of some political ideology only, as the ideology of "socialism" wishes to change society by ignoring constitutional mandated methodologies. The ENTIRE IDEOLOGY of Social Democracy is a presentation of ignoring the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Funny indeed. I enjoy watching the pompous "stutter" when they are challenged by "facts". You declare the numbers presented by the HERITAGE FOUNDATION as "worthless"....yet you have no ACTUAL proof of rebuking their very well "researched" and validated presentation of facts, as each and every source was referenced as "factual".....What? Is everyone to believe that their presentation of using the numerical order of counting from 1 thru 10 is NOT VALID simply because they are a "conservative" foundation? Its a simple concept...PROVE THEM WRONG, or as I suspect.....NOT! Or is it "beneath" your dignity to have your 'opinion' challenged by something so trivial as "factual information"? (R)
Last edited by Ralph; 05-28-2008 at 12:32 AM.
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