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Originally Posted by Zack  No law has been created that hasn't been violated, it is the nature of man and woman to live as they feel within their own morals. Some rob, rape, kill, steal and some let their grass grow too high or paint their home with too bright colors. | That is true, but the PURPOSE of the law is to eliminate or discourage the "crime". Laws criminalizing abortion DON'T do that. The worst effect of anti-abortion laws is women dying from illegal abortions. Quote: |
When I was a kid growing up in the 1950's women and men knew their place and I'm here to tell you that women and men were much more happy in the 1950's than they are today. Gossip about a teen on vacation to a town to have a baby out of wedlock was transacted in a whisper. I'm sure those who took more drastic measures to remedy such a problem pretty much remained silent but to a close inner circle.
| Women were NOT happier in the 1950's. The unreliability of birth control led to a lot of illegal abortions, out-of-wedlock births (for which the woman involved paid dearly and men got off scot-free most of the time), shotgun weddings (which led to the soaring divorce rate), youthful marriages (soaring divorce rate again). Women were expected to be fulltime homemakers/mothers (no choice) unless their husbands were unable to support the family which was socially frowned upon. Women were frequently "knocked around" by husbands who were only "keeping them in their places". Men may miss the kind of "authority" they had in the 1950's, but women don't miss that at all. Quote: |
I didn't say there is never a situation where an abortion might be necesary but said it should be given the gravity of a murder trial.
| So what is the proper function of government in establishing the appropriate "gravity"? The greatest danger to liberty lurks in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.
--Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis |