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Originally Posted by OKgrannie  That is true, but the PURPOSE of the law is to eliminate or discourage the "crime". Laws criminalizing abortion DON'T do that. The worst effect of anti-abortion laws is women dying from illegal abortions. | Perhaps then women that don't want to deal with the law should place an pill between their knees and not drop it when around a man?
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Women were NOT happier in the 1950's. The unreliability of birth control led to a lot of illegal abortions, out-of-wedlock births (for which the woman involved paid dearly and men got off scot-free most of the time), shotgun weddings (which led to the soaring divorce rate), youthful marriages (soaring divorce rate again). Women were expected to be fulltime homemakers/mothers (no choice) unless their husbands were unable to support the family which was socially frowned upon. Women were frequently "knocked around" by husbands who were only "keeping them in their places". Men may miss the kind of "authority" they had in the 1950's, but women don't miss that at all.
| Were you there? Women were respected more in the 1950's than they are today, yes of course there were dominate men as there are today but the norm was an equal sharing in a relationship of marriage. My parents lived such an arrangement and my mother often got up at 4:00AM to prepare my dad coffee and a quick breakfast and then again prepared breakfast for us kids at normal time. My father worked hard all day and so did my mother playing out their normal roll models. Girls in school attended Home Economics and became experts in maintaining the home. If a woman approached a door it was instantly opened, if a woman had a flat tire I thought it was a law that the first man passing had to change it and only expect a thank you. If a young girl got pregnant then she went away before she was showing and all the neighbors were told a rich aunt had an inheritance and had taken her to Europe.
Some women today misuse the laws created for women when women were respected and protected against the bad men you describe, they often turn themselves into whores in dating situations and wonder why they are treated as whores. The working woman still does most of the house cleaning after she finished working so she actually has two jobs so I'd dare to say she was better off in the 1950's. In the 1950's sex was for procreation, young men were told to marry a virgin but to sew their wild seeds until they were ready to settle down. Duh, it hasn't changed other than women now whore around just like only boys were expected to.
I remember one day a church when a dominate wife corrected her husband in front of my mother and father, my dad took my brother and I to the side and asked, did you see that man, did you see the way he looked down when his wife corrected him, did you see his false smile, a smile like a possum eating warm cow shit out of a sand briar? Then he went on to tell us that there is nothing a woman can give you to cause you to lose your self respect the way that man has. Does your man/men have to look down and smile in disgrace? Quote: |
So what is the proper function of government in establishing the appropriate "gravity"?
| Killing a person regardless of size is murder unless someone can justify reasoning that it is necessary to save another life. If the Mars explorer found frozen fertilized Martian eggs in a chamber on Mars would the headlines read "life discovered on Mars"? Or, would the headlines read "Living cells with the capability of producing Martian Lifeforms discovered? Or "Former Martian cell tissue discarded was found"? The purpose of government is to guarantee all person's "nature's God" rights to LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness are protected. For me to conclude differently I would have to wish that your mom would have had the choice to say former human cell tissue was discarded and not be upset that you aren't here debating me on the topic. |