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Old 07-08-2008, 03:34 PM   #45 (permalink)
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We aren't a different country today then we were 200 years ago. And yes, maybe slavery is over, but the repurcussions aren't. You do know that the civil rights movement was only 45 years ago, don't you? And I don't know what makes you think that Andrew Jackson is my hero, he isn't. And I am very well aware of how our government has oppressed multitudes of people in it's breif history. That doesn't mean that those things aren't still issues today. Stop defending indefensible positions that were a part of our system for a very long time. Saying sorry doesn't cut it, realising the effects and doing something to change them, does.

And the way that you see things comes across as someone who never experienced, or could empathise with the kinds of things we are talking about. It sounds like more of the same crap that white men have been spewing for ages. It's time for you to take a long hard look at history, and how that history contributes to our problems today. That is what sane, moral people do in order to better this country, while still recognising that it is the best country in the world. Power mongering and greed is what has been the motivation for most of our misdeeds, and that is still the creed in this country, at least on the right. And the left isn't without fault either.
I look at things as the constitution and Declaration of Independence put it... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

I am a fortunate man even though I was born into poverty... All people born in America are equally fortunate regardless of race creed or color. Don't lecture me on what you know nothing about... "And the way that you see things comes across as someone who never experienced, or could empathise with the kinds of things we are talking about." I lived a very poor life as a child and used an outhouse until I was 11... I used my first indoor plumbing at public school. I consider myself a success considering my beginnings, I've owned several homes, given up close to $200,000 in property to bad marriages and in a few months will have paid off the home I live in... my kids go to private school because I want them to do better than me... not because I'm rich but because I desire, as my dad did that they do better than him on their own efforts. I live poor so my dreams of a better life for my children can take root. I believe in "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." and I don't think it makes a damn if you were born black, Chinese, Vietnamese, American Indian or what ever rich or poor you are born in a great nation and require no propping up by the government... You need to earn the next man's respect and that isn't earned with skin color but by character. Character shows through regardless of your beginning.

My point about minorities is that there are many and only the Afro Americans seem to require managing and propping up and I find that unfair since I myself started my life knee deep in crap. Very many Afro Americans prosper and hold higher levels than I or my children will hold in their lifetimes and I say to give a prop to those who don't, because they are Afro American in origin discriminates against my wife, children and I. Since I believe: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
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