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Old 12-21-2005, 08:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Once again srg, you are missing the point that these kidnappingsdo happen and are not the type of thing we should be engaged in. How many cases do we have to have? The U.S. has admitted it was wrong in this case so my point is that these renditions do happen and they are not legal. Maybe you think that in our protection of our people we should compromise what we stand for. These acts by our govenment are immoral, inhumane, and illegal and in this case we didn't protect shit. We are suppose to be the civalized ones. Our senate just shot down our ability to torture people. That we even got to the point of questioning what is right and wrong in this issue just proves what having one party in charge of all three sections of the government will do. Yes, ultimate power does lead to ultimate abuse of power. If it is illegal for the prison/court system to treat and transport inmates this way what makes you think that we should lower ourselves to the level of terrorists? In this case the CIA were very real terrorists even if they only terrorized one man. How may others are silent, or silenced? Don't tell me just one case. We wouldn't need whole prisons for just one case. As I said earlier, this practice is wrong and should be stopped. Protect the people, but like real Americans would do. With a firm a hand but with at least a little show of reason. We can handle these people like people, without stooping to their level. If we used these methods to transport cattle we would be barbaric and it would be illegal. Never mind human beings. Either we act like a civilized, compassionate, country or we act like Saddam did. How can anyone think there is a middle ground here?
Something civilians will never understand about war... You can't be civilized. There is nothing civil about war. All is fair. What we need to do is end this war all together. But if we are going to committ to it, we need to committ to it completely and let the military do what it's best at, winning wars. You don't question your doctors methods... Leave war to the proffessionals. If you don't like what it entails, then tell your politicians to end it all together. Otherwise, slaughter the fuckers. All of them, until everyone of our boys can come home.
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