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Old 12-23-2005, 10:38 AM   #33 (permalink)
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But that is just the thing. Reagan was an evil motherfucker as well. Giving him credit for ending the cold war was his greatest part he ever played. Standing there saying "Bring down this wall" and crap.

American public... hook, line and sinker.
So then who ended the cold war??? While the educated in this country and in the rest of the western world were saying that the Soviet Union was all powerful, Reagan was saying that it had flaws. While the Soviets were broadcasting to the world their power, repressing solidarity in Poland, and invading Afghanistan, Reagan was saying that their last pages were already being written.

The educated elite, and the media all said that Reagan was a fool. He called the Soviet Union an evil empire, and they went beserk. Only after the fall of the Soviet Union did the dissidents say that finally a western leader said what they had known all alone. Gorbachev wanted to save communism and reform the USSR, not lead over its demise.

If not Reagan then whom??? Hell, even Margaret Thatcher realized what Reagan had done, without a shot ever being fired. Quit trying to rewrite history. Accept the fact that the liberals and the idea of appeasement were failures and that by engaging the the Soviet Union in an Arms Race and by standing up to them at the negotiating table, Reagan greatly increased the rate of their demise.

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It was a crumbling economy that brought down the cold war. When you spend all your money on military and not enough on the people of the country chaos follows (America take heed or you too will be standing in long lines for bread and TP).

The fact that Reagan brought us to the point where we blow up the world 5 times over with nukes was just pointless. Nothing but a foolish waste of resources.

Reagan was probably "losing it" way before the public knew what was going on. It does go to show how have much television has changed politics though. Good acting can go a long way.
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There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.