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Originally Posted by sgtdmski What started out as a debate about the new Pope has broken into a debate on religion. Let me start with the first and add some to the latter.
Yes the new Pope is Germany in ancestry. Yes he was a member of the Nazi Youth Group, as were all good German Children, and yes he was drafted into the Army. But he did desert, and continue his journeys becoming a man of the cloth.
I see the original post relied to much on the Old York Times. It was the media that decided to attack this man's past. Once and for all for all the liberals out there, if a conservatives past matters, then we must hold the same accountablility to liberals.
As a conservative if need be I will stand up and say yes the Pope was and is a Nazi, but to do so the liberals need to stand up and proclaim that Senator Byrd was and is a racist. Do you need me to stand up and say that when it came to the Vietnam War, President Bush was a coward who shirked his duty, I will, but at the same time you better stand up and proclaim that Senator Kerry was a traitor to his men and his country.
This holding of conservatives to one standard and granting free passes to liberals must stop.
As far as religion, well Marx did call it the opiate of the masses. But he had a reason, in order for socialism or communism to succeed, the government must get religion. Anything that threatens the power of those in charge is a danger, hence all religion must go. The same is true even today, why do you think the secularist try so hard to remove all aspects of religion from our country. The Soviet Union tried to abolish religion, but looked what happened, the were defeated by the Bubuska Brigade. Little old ladies who taught their children and grandchildren about the Bible and God.
And yes early settlers went out to convert native people to Christianity. But today the answer is multiculturalism, that says we must not judge other cultures through our own eyes, instead we must judge them by their own. Well practice what you preach, don't judge our earliest ancestors by what we consider to be correct, but instead judge them through their own eyes and understand. If fail in this then you are truly a hypocrite.
dmk | The answer to religion is easy. No one religion is going to work in a secular society. So the answer is remove ALL religion from government to preserve the individuals right to ANY religion or none at all.
Religion is not fact. And to inject it onto a constituent who doesn't want it is unconstitutional.
I want God off my money and out of my government. But not out of the lives of those who want it. That is meant for church and within the heart of those who believe. |