Anybody heard this one before?
WASHINGTON - Military interrogators posing as FBI agents at the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, wrapped terrorism suspects in an Israeli flag and forced them to watch homosexual pornography under strobe lights during interrogation sessions that lasted as long as 18 hours, according to one of a batch of FBI memos released Thursday.
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Military interrogators "were being encouraged at times to use aggressive interrogation tactics in GTMO (Guantanamo), which are of questionable effectiveness and subject to uncertain interpretation based on law and regulation," said a separate e-mail, dated May 30, 2003. "Not only are these tactics at odds with legally permissible interviewing techniques used by U.S. law enforcement agencies in the United States but they are being employed by personnel in GTMO who appear to have little, if any, experience eliciting information for judicial purposes."
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/13945827.htm
How much more of this CRAP are we as Americans going to put up with?
I mean, the scenario where thousands (or millions) are going to die unless we torture some terrorist is just grand. It's a great FICTION PIECE.
But let's live in the real world for a minute and look at what's REALLY going on in Gitmo. What's really going on with "torture".
Don't get me wrong. If there ever comes a day where a terrorist is tortured because it's the only way to save lives, I will applaud. If by some miracle it were to go to trial, which in all rationality it just plain wouldn't, I would be happy to acquit if I were on the jury.
But let's face reality. That IS NOT the scenario we have today.
That's not what's going on in Gitmo.
And I think it's rather interesting that NOBODY here (unless I missed a post or something) is really defending what is going on in Gitmo...
The scenario we have today is listed above. The scenario we have today is one where people are humiliated and abused FOR NO REAL REASON, and only the lower peons get a slap on the wrist, while everybody else is ignored.
(And THAT is why I say it would be a miracle if the afore-mentioned scenario would go to trial. Because the obviously more heinous situations DO NOT go to trial for the most part...)
Let's address the situation we DO have instead of holding out to keep legal a situation which will probably never come unless it's in a Tom Clancy novel...