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Originally Posted by fxashun  Since we are talking about rape. There is only a small window of opportunity. Timely reporting of the rape and 12 weeks to get the abortion. If the baby was gonna be a problem, it should have been taken care of before there is anything to worry about after delivery. If it gets that far, she has abdicated that choice. |
ok, why? you are not answering the question. why 12 weeks? does something magically happen at 12 weeks? is a foetus less than 12 weeks old less deserving of life? you have always maintained the opposite to this, you have always said a foetus is a person, a living human. now suddenly you are arguing that a foetus older than 12 weeks has rights that a foetus less than 12 weeks doesnt have. are you starting to see the inconsistency in your position ?
this is the issue. you have argued constantly that a foetus is a person and should be treated with the respect any person deserves. now you are saying for the first time that there is a distinct difference between a foetus and a baby. so, what is that difference?
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That's just discussing it from the "rape' perspective.
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no, you are
ignoring the rape perspective, which is strange given that "consent" has been your catch cry on abortion for months. these hypotheticals are
identical when it comes to rape. they only differ when it comes to the age of the baby. so your argument has changed, suddenly it is nothing to do with rape, it is all to do with gestational age and delivery. you are suddenly starting to agree with the others that a foetus is less than a baby, that a born baby has fundamental rights that a foetus does not have.
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Literally, after the baby is born though, it's outright a murder to take its life. And that's wrong in any way you look at it.
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true. but listen to yourself.
you have said it is outright murder to kill a baby after it is born.
and a foetus at 12 weeks gestation is a baby.
but it is NOT MURDER TO kill a foetus at 12 weeks gestation.
logic is deserting you. you are saying A=B, B=C, but A does not equal C.
this is the point. how many times to i have to ask? you are suddenly admitting that there is a difference between a foetus and a baby. a fundamental difference, a difference that makes killing one ok and killing the other murder. you are suddenly contradicting what you have been saying for months.
