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Originally Posted by Jefferson I'm not sure whether you're a complete dumbass, or just a smartass. |
Ahh. Digging in with the insults.
That's usually a sign that you've got little left to offer, and you are starting to devolve the topic away from the actual topic matter.
Be forewarned that I'm not going to be drawn away from the topic matter.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson FEMA failed. Of that fact, there is no question.
But there should NOT have been thousands of people STILL IN NEW ORLEANS WHEN KATRINA HIT. That is Nagin's fault, pure and simple. What do you NOT understand about that? |
Pay attention. I'm only going to say this over and over again until you actually comprehend it.
I acknowledge that Nagin made mistakes. Pure and simple. We agree on that...
Yet you keep bringing up an issue we agree on in attempt to side-step the issue of Bush's culpability...
The evacuation failure was one of Nagin's mistakes. It was Nagin's fault.
Beyond possibly the governor sharing some fault in this area, it is SOLELY the fault of Nagin (and possibly the governor).
I have said nothing to deny this.
But what you fail to comprehend is that pointing the finger at Nagin IS NOT going to diminish Bush's culpability.
I am willing to agree regarding Nagin's failure.
Why are you not willing to address Bush's?
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Originally Posted by Jefferson Either way, it's a total waste of time to try to talk any logic or reason with you at all. That is obvious by the fact that there's virtually nobody on this Forum except you and Hevusa - and all you two do is run around playing with each other. |
And again with the insults, while you ignore what I ACTUALLY said.
While you keep dragging the topic away from the POINT.
This is about Bush's culpability in the Katrina failure.
It's about his role in Brown's failure.
That is why it is in the "Bush Administration" category.
But now you seem to understand that I am not going to be dragged from the actual topic matter, and then you start in with the name-calling.
It's a rather ineffective debate tactic...
It demonstrates frustration on your part, but little else...
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Originally Posted by Jefferson So... answer the question, Mr Smartass. Do you want the Federal Government micromanaging EVERY aspect of your life, or do you believe that people should take individual responsibility for their well-being? |
Why do you pose the question as a matter of extremes?
It's like you're demanding that I pick 1 or 10 only, when possible solutions exist in the numbers 2 through 9.
Your very question demonstrates that you utterly and completely fail to comprehend the PURPOSE of FEMA, and how it has SUCCESSFULLY dealt with disasters in the past.
You know nothing of this topic, and your bluster is only emphasizing that point instead of covering it up.
FEMA's function, when it functions properly, DOES NOT NEED to micro-manage in order to help save lives and help people in need.
You ask a false question, demonstrating you know nothing about FEMA and how it's supposed to function.