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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet So what hard evidence do you have of Syrian and Iranian involvement with the insurgency? If you do have that evidence, then can you tell me how much of the insurgency is made up of Syrians, Iranians, and Egyptians? I can gartuntee you that the vast majority of the resistance is made up of Iraqis, but I don't doubt that foreign volunteers have joined them.
What does Al-Qaeda have to do with the Iraqi insurgency? Last I checked, those were two separate issues. The Iraqi resistance is made up of people who want independance, not people holding a life-long grudge against America.
American capitalism doesn't just celebrate those who're good at what they do, it worships them by smothering them in capital. What good is that for the workers? A growing business doesn't raise wages and offer benefits, a growing business hires more workers. Bussinessmen who're good at what they do are only that good because they'll push compassion and humanitarianism aside to expand their businesses, and still the people remain their loyal syncophants. Who cares if they risk capital to start the process, is that something to be honored? They can plant a garden, they can provide mutual aid, they can be open and friendly with their community instead of trying to protect their week's wages from decent people. Banks are complication, taxes are complication, checks and credit cards are complication, and life is so simple. Look at America, look at how lazily complacent we've become. Look at the cars we drive and the food we eat, look at the houses we live in, it's ridiculous.
What makes all of this possible? Exploitation and oppression. |
Hear hear.
Sgtdmski's post seriously makes me want to puke.
It seems as if he has taken the propaganda bait set out by the Bush administration, that somehow we're fighting al-Qaeda, and mostly "terrorists". "Foreign fighters" (not including the fact that
we are foreign fighters), make up a very small percentage of the actual insurgency in Iraq. Major General Joseph Taluto, head of the 42nd Infantry Division, said that "99.9 per cent" of captured insurgents are Iraqi, and this estimate has been confirmed by the
Pentagon's own figures. Its just a fact you're going to have to live with that the insurgency is the Iraqi resistence to a foreign occupier. Its just the politicians, and neoconservative business men that's overly optimistic to the point of lies and mistruths.
If we truly were just liberators, then we most likely would have been accepted as such. When the tanks rolled into Baghdad, a lot of Iraqis were indeed happy. But then they understood when the U.S. military secured the oil fields instead of the alleged WMD sites, and they understood when the U.S. military started building permenant bases with even American fast food restaurants by them. This is a product of your precious capitalism. When war becomes so profitable, and when our leaders are business men and capitalists themselves, although it may not be a conspiracy, but you definetly have that willingness to go to war.
Your beloved capitalism brings war, greed, and profit-motives over people. Companies aren't placing their ads in virtually every aspect of your life because they care about you, they do it because they treat you as customers; only people that can give them money. And now there has been a fusion between the business oligarchy, government, and military into something that Eisenhower once warned about
: the military industrial-complex.
The
only people that truly benifited from this war are American company CEO's and their top constituents, the top of the administration (being the President, Vice President, and some cabinent members including Donald Rumsfeld). All the American people got was a poor economy, loss of constitutional rights, loss of family members, and a loss of the great image of the once beacon for democracy and personal liberties as the United States of America. All the Iraqis got was over 100,000 dead, blown-up infrustructure, chaos, civil war, military occupation, loss of rights to their own oil fields, and the loss of the chance to true democracy in their country.
Your beloved capitalism brings vast social and economic inequalities, injustice, plutocracy, war, production for profit instead of use, corruption, and destruction of the environment. All of these things have brought America great harm especially within the last two decades or so.
People should have really headed Martin Luther King, Jr.'s words. Instead, they turned his legacy into this discusting enterprise for profit. As Reverend Graylan Hagler
best puts it, his legacy has been reduced into this "syrupy-sweet hallmark card genre, where he is no longer prophetic, where he no longer speaks to the nation, and he no longer causes us to speak to the nation, in ways that shake the foundation of this nation's immorality."
Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke out against the Vietnam war. He spoke out against the things that plagued this nation so. People should have and should today head his words which could not be ever more true, "We must rapidly begin to shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered."
Your beloved capitalism has brought about fascism into this world, where not only corporate profit and nationalism converge in a signle nation, but also when other corporations from other so-called democratic states come to the aid of the profitable, and investable Adolf Hitler and the rise of Nazi Germany. Your beloved capitalism has even aided the injustices of totalitarian communism, and Maoism. Where companies like Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft not only bend backward for the communist ideology in order to reach the profitable enterprise of billions of people, but also sell survailence equipment only to be used against the people of China. Chinese people around or under the age of 20 don't even know who "Tank man" is from the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre, let alone the massacre itself; because of Chinese censorship policies, and American companies' self-censorship.
They are enemies of democracy, and our essential liberties just as much as Communism. I think you're so quick to confuse Socialism with communism. Even so, you're measuring a nation's greatness by the amount of money they have, or their GDP. You're absolutely sick.
"The gross national product includes air pollution and advertising for cigarettes, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors, and jails for the people who break them.
"The gross national product includes the destruction of the redwoods and the death of Lake Superior. It grows with the production of napalm and missiles with nuclear warheads....
"And if the gross national product includes all this, there is much that it does not comprehend. It does not allow for the health of our families, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It is indifferent to the decency of our factories and the safety of streets alike. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials....
"The gross national product measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to country.
It measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile; and it can tell us everything about America except why we are proud to be Americans."
-Robert Kennedy