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Originally Posted by sgtdmski Minority Sexual Orientation - the desire of a few to have sexual relations with a few. So tell me, should we now legalize rape, bigamy, polgamy and pedophilia? Those are the only sexual orientations that our party seeks to punish. Do not confuse puinishing with the denying or recognition, they are two different things.
dmk | Denying gay couples the right to call their union a marriage is governmental interference with people's personal value system. It is denying these people the right to be who they believe they are. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski Majority religion. The Republican party does not belong to one religion, however, we do and will continue to support religion over no religion.
dmk | perhaps that is the official stance. But you are not gonna get far in the U.Ss if you are a conservative muslim. You better be a W.A.S.P. or else. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski Which increase in censorship have we supported. I recall no efforts by anyone to deny someone their speech. If holding someone accountable for what they say is censorship, well, that is really stretching it don't you think.
dmk | What FOX does is censorship of the truth. Every thing on FOX is told from a VERY subjective viewpoint which makes the viewer feel that if he does not agree he is going to hell. Figuaratively speaking. there is a defacto censorship as anybody not towing the republican party line is called unamerican and is subjected to a variety of abuse and slander e.g Bill O'Reilly and his ridiculous rants. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski The war on drugs was started to stem the tide of the destruction caused by the use of drugs. Crime, prostitution, and poverty. Like it or not, this things lead to the further decline of a society. We have seen the effects on inner city neighborhoods where drugs ran rampant. Today they remain eyesores, where the law-abiding citizens live in fear, because the criminals control the streets.
dmk | Drug use is not the cause of crime poverty and prostitution. It is a symptom just like the aforementioned of the complete and utter disregard of the rights of the common man. If people are unemployed, sick, poor and disenfranchised of COURSE they are going to resort to crime, prostituion and drug dealing to ward off povery and hunger. The war on drugs is nothing more that a surface cleaning that the republican party can present as an "achievement". It is NOTHING as it does not deal with the root cause. The root cause is that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski And just what freedoms have been denied today. Time and again people talk about the denying of civil liberties, and time and again they can show none that have been denied.
dmk | Patriot Act is a denial of civil liberties. Gitmo is a denial of civil liberties. Just because the nuts in Gitmo aint U.S citizens does not mean that they are not worthy of civil rights. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski You may question whether or not we have brought freedom to Iraq, but the simple fact remains that today in Iraq, athletes who lose sporting matches are not being tortured, those who speak against the government are not being jailed, tortured, or killed. There may be violence in Iraq, however, the violence stems not from the democracy that is trying to be grown, but rather from the terrorist who wish to see Iraq as a theocracy governed by the 4th Century tenets of Islam. A country where religious freedom is denied, a country where woman are subservient to men, where they must cover their faces, not look a man in the eyes, not leave the house without a man, and not speak to a man unless the man first speaks to them.
dmk | Iraq is not your country so don't decide for 24 million people what is best for them. Besides all these things that we know were crappy things existing in Iraq are DOUBLY enforced is Saudi Arabia. Iraq was the first middle eastern country to give women the vote. It was the most progressive in terms of womens rights of ALL middle eastern countries. Religious freedom was most cvertianly also better than saudi arabia since it seems that shias and sunnis avoided massacring each other on a regular basis. that is until the U.S. decided to come in and "liberate".
U.S ally saudi arabia is a completely male dominated dictatorial theocracy with incidents such as publics beheading, lashings and choppings. Why not invade them? Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski Peace through strength still means the same today as it did when Ronald Reagan first began use of the term. We will not sacrifice our freedom by allowing our military to decline. We will use force when necessary to secure the liberty we have always had. In the case of Iraq, yes we used war. But if the use of war is wrong, then too it must have been wrong during WWII when we freed the European continent from Hitler. Or is it only wrong now? For if that is a case, what racist view of opposing oppression you have.
dmk | Hitlar went beyond his own borders and had done so for several years before the U.S went in . The first Gulf war was justified. Iraq invaded Kuwait. Exactly who did they invade this time? What weapons did they have? what basic tenet of freedom and democracy did Iraq violate that is not still being violated by U.S. allies in the middle east? Attacking hitler was justified because he was screwing with all of europe. you can not compare normandy to baghdad this time round.
And PLEASE dude. I think it is pretty evident from history that peace can not be FORCED. Forced peace is subjugation. Real peace is created by ensuring everybody gets their rights. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sgtdmski The speaker in the speech only address four issue mainly because of time constraints. As he has said, the calendar has been issued with 365 days and 365 events, but even a single year, and 365 days are not enough time to list the achievements the party has stood and accomplished. Unlike the democrats, we can and remain proud of our past. Unfortunately the same can not be said of them, for if they are proud of their past that means that they are proud of slavery, Jim Crow, and the many other sins that we are so quick to turn a blind eye towards, to embrace their anti-War, anti-Bush mantra of today.
dmk | Again dude, living on past glory is sadder than having no past glory to speak of. It is completely and UTTERLY irrelevant what the GOP did in decades past. What is important is what they are doing now. Saddam was member of the Baath party which ousted a dictatorial ruler. it was a fair revolution. But wht Saddam duid afterwards was crazy and it completely nullified the fairness of the revolution. Just like the actions of the GOP NOW completely nullifies its record on civil liberties. Love for all, Hatred for none |