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Originally Posted by hkbajwa Death is death and the manner of death is irrelevant to those who die. | Please understand that I do not agree with you on the above statement at all - not at all. You are from Pakistan? What is the difference in the mind of the average Muslim there, between dying in a martyrdom for Allah vs.
being shot robbing a convenience store?
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Originally Posted by hkjabwa It may make a difference to those who are left behind. But even to those, the concept of vengance only treats their anger. It has no effect on the feeling of loss. That is the real issue they loved ones have to deal with. The feeling of loss and emptiness. | You and I will possibly never agree on this. The feeling of emptiness will be there in any case: but compare the feeling of a widow whose husband died fighting the Nazis in WWII vs. the feeling of the woman whose husband was killed while robbing the convenience store. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkjabwa And while bashing in a head with a baseball bat is more graphic violence, the thought that a tiny sqeeze on a trigger can tear out the insides of a human seems to me more violent. | Hmmm. They both seem violent to me. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkjabwa I understand the need to protect yourself. It's the most valid of concerns. However don't you think that the proliferation of guns in the US leads to more deaths than if let say all thugs only had a baseball bat? Doesn't that fact that both you and your attacker have guns increase the chance of one of you getting shot. At leat with a baseball bat, one might just incapacitate the other without killing. That is less of an option with a gun . You can control how hard you shoot a person. | Head injuries from a baseball bat can be gruesome situations in which one wished one had been killed. I have heard about one in quite a bit of detail which occurred in Washington State.
I understand your point about not really wanting to kill a burglar; still, just because you have a gun does not mean you must use it.
I would not want to trust the defense of my home to a tazer though. They don't always work, according to what I've heard. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkjabwa If protection of your home is the main issue, then technology offers plenty of non-lethal alternatives to protect your home. What's the point of having a gun other than if you insist of KILLING the person who means you harm? | Evidence suggests that the incidence of crime plummets in American neighborhoods known to be inhabited by gun owners.
Gotta change the laundry; back to your next post after that. |