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Originally Posted by hkbajwa [to Jefferson]
...Incidentally, making the hard choice of terminating a pregnancy requires a far greater level of maturity, especially considering the rape of your uterus and your emotions it involves. | Is that what you've been told? Because I know other women who have gotten abortions and they did not go through the living hell you are describing. Some of them even said they felt great. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkjabwa Having an abortion is not the easy way out. It is a last resort. | The last resort? Oh, you mean like when a person just can't STAND the idea of being pregnant or giving up the baby to a loving pair of adoptive parents? Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkjabwa But it is a last resort that the mother has the right to choose. | Correct: the legal right... because of a judicial fiat about which the people of this country were not allowed to vote. Please see the Tenth Amendment; Roe is a legal decision so sloppy that even Ruth Bader-Ginsburg admitted it. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkjabwa Just like people are now allowed to choose a divorce. Nobody likes a divorce, but can you imagine the uproar if people were not themselves in charge of whether they wished to spend their lives with a person or not. | There is only one thing these two issues have in common - the fact that they both became legally accessible in the mid-twentieth century. Other than that they have nothing so it is only muddling the issue to conflate them. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkjabwa Abortion sucks. not because of some vague notion of a murdered pre-baby. But because it is a lousy choice to make for a woman. She has to deal with a buttload of emotions, hormones, guilt, anger, loss and a huge spectrum of other crappy emotions tied up to this procedure. The best would be if no woman had to get an abortion. But that is not the same as saying no woman is ALLOWED an abortion. | Straw man alert.
No one has said that no woman is allowed an abortion. Even the Catholic Church allows abortion in the cases of ectopic pregnancy or cancer of the uterus. And certainly in the minds of most prolifers there are additional health conditions that justify abortion.
Second, there is no "vague notion of a murdered pre-baby". There is the concrete fact of a developing fetus who undergoes a deliberate killing. |