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Old 05-10-2006, 09:38 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dylan
1. Abortion is not an industry. It is a medical procedure. I believe I've already indicated my support for counciling and a waiting period. Not having parental notification doesn't make it a 'quicky abortion.'
2. You're right, I did. However, you're also making a lot of assumptions, which I have proceeded to refute, such as being a heartless baby hater or whatever.
3. The vast majority of abortions are due to mistakes. I am quite aware of that fact. I am also aware that married women statistically have the most abortions. This may suprise you, but most women are pretty good at telling whether it's a good time to have a baby or not. The desperate doesn't just include those poor people who have been the victims of rape and/or incest. Desperate can mean the woman doesn't have enough money to support another child comfortably, or the family simply doesn't want another child. Most people don't have an abortion before trying anything else.
4. You're right. I am not a parent, because at this point in my life, I feel that I am not ready to be a parent. However, a premature baby is still born... albeit prematurely. Once that baby is born, it is no longer connected to the body of the woman, and therefore no longer a part of the woman's body. If you cut off your hand, it isn't your hand anymore.
5. How clearly? Prove it. I don't think it's that clear, and neither do the approximate half of all Americans that believe that abortion should be legal. If it's so clear, everyone, or at least a majority, would agree. I don't know when life begins, but I do know when a whatever stops physically imposing on its mother, and that's after birth.
6. Many people believe they are the same. If they chose to impose their will on you, it would also be the same. It's their ethics against yours, and your ethics against mine. I fail to see the difference, except for which position you happen to be in under the circumstances.
7. This is a debate website. It is designed for debate. I am debating.
1. Abortion IS a major money-making industry. Planned Parenthood brings in hundreds of millions of dollars annually. Doctors make millions of dollars annually. If in doubt, about anything, ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL.
2. So you say you support abortion for any and every reason, but you also love the unborn? Not sure how those to belief systems can co-exist.
3. Define a mistake? Is it a couple that's just having sex, without contraceptives, and find out they're pregnant? Golly gee! I made a "mistake" 20 years ago, when I bought a new car. I couldn't afford it, but I had to deal with my "mistake". And guess what? Nobody died as a result!
4. That argument makes no sense at all. If it is a baby OUTSIDE the womb, it is a baby INSIDE the womb. "When I sit down to take a dump, when does my crap actually become poop?"
5. If you don't think it's clear when a pre-born child's life begins, how DARE you arbitrarily decide that it's okay to end a pregnancy for any and every reason, at any and every stage of the pregnancy? Isn't that pretty self-contradictory?
6. So what you're saying is that you believe there is no such thing as absolute right or wrong - or absolute truth of falsehood. Nice.
7. No, actually this is NOT a debate website. Think about it. NOBODY comes here to engage in open-minded debate. I don't, and neither do you. It might as well be admitted that what this forum REALLY is is a RANT site.