Thread: For Abortion or against it?
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Old 05-14-2005, 09:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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But also the principle of life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Without life you have no liberties and certainly no pursuit of hapiness.

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Oh please. Somehow I do not think the forefathers where considering the rights of the fetus when they wrote that. The idea is ridiculous. You have to remember that we start as a single celled organism. And since all the pro lifers seem to think that life starts at conception, offering constitutional rights to a fetus amounts to offering equal rights to a protozoa. I suppose we should throw plankton in there too.

I stand my my analogy of a cake. A cake is not a cake until it is done cooking and taken out of the oven. I think the same goes for a fetus. If it is not done cooking it is not a person.
I find your analogy seriously lacking. Whether or not the Founding Fathers were considering a fetus when they wrote that is irrelevent. What is for sure is they were discussing LIFE. They obviously felt that the protection of LIFE was important enough to include in our Constitution.

The difference between your analogy of a cake and a fetus is that for a human to exist it must go through the lifecycle of being a fetus. It is developing and it is alive. A cake will never live.

I find it strange that you appreciate the fact that a nine judge panel (USSC) was allowed to determine what is alive and what is not; not even with so much as a Constitutional amendment or it being left to the individual states to decide.

I also find it very unappealing that you, like Hitler, enjoy deciding just exactly what should be considered mere cake and what should be considered a living human being.

So, I state again...the relevance of what the Founding Fathers were thinking when they included Life, Liberty & Happiness is irrelevant, the simple fact that they concluded that the life of human being should be protected is however very relevant.

Now go bake a cake.
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