 hkbajwa your friend seems to think that your reply to the post I sent him was *well said* and I guess he would have to appreciate anything that saved him from having to make another lame answer for himself. But all I see is that you forgot to address my point. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkbajwa No problem dude. If it is possible to find legal grounds where the rights of a non-citizen ( that's what a pre-nate is ) supersede those of a living breathing citizen then go ahead. | That would only be true if it was a case of one life vs. another life. Which it is when abortion is done for medical reasons.
But abortion on demand is a case of the life of one vs. the preference of another.
And as far as citizenship, that's the weakest argument I've heard yet. Does that mean you think we should be able to kill illegal immigrants since they are *non citizens*? Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkbaja I think the point being made here is that if laws have to be changed, then do it within a legal framework. Morality is not an argument. Morality is individual and therefore not something that can be debated. | Stealing is considered immoral by some people and not by others. So if what you say is true, where did anyone get the right to make a law against it? Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkbjab I have to admit i am pretty tired of the abuse pro-choice supporters receive. It's typical that people who support the individual freedom of choice are accused of harboring evil intents towards unborn feti. | Ridiculous. If anybody gets abused it is those who are standiing up for the voiceless.
Why don't you point out an example of where I or any other prolife person accused any of you of harboring evil intents toward the fetus. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkbaj No pro-choice activist would say don't advise against abortions or don't hand out free condoms or don't try and talk a woman out of it. That is all great. But when it comes to the abortion then butt out and let the woman deal with it. We don't want feti to be destroyed. But we do want individual rights of choice to be maintained. | If that is what you want so much, I continue to wonder why you are not trying to turn around the many laws in this country which interfere with *individual rights of choice* when it comes to stealing, murder of born persons, and every other issue on which people have various differing moralities.
Rights of choice end where the next individual begins. In the case of abortion, that individual begins real close. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hkbajwa ]If by some method pro-lifers can convince a court, then freakin great. But stop with the morality bashing. | I'm waiting for you to show me ONE instance where I *bashed morality*. You won't find it. So if you're tired of anything, maybe it's your conscience getting to you. |