Originally Posted by thenewnoise

1. Election fraud can be proven, it is proven all the time in third world countries. Or do you think that the "elected" politicians that have been forced out of office should be reinstated since the methods used to out them were simply conjecture and speculation?

2. "Politics" is not an argument. I am glad that you shared your personal opinion, but that is not what I am looking for. Why should a rational person accept these methods of fraud detection in Ukraine and not in the US?

3. The media is profit driven and they do want to be the first with the news, but only so far as they are accurate. If the media is reporting information that they know is false, they will lose credibility, viewers, sponsors, and money. If they cared only about being first, they would skip the exit polls and declare a winner before the election so they could be the one "with the news first." I think I have it figured out.

4. You are still ignoring the other arguments, namely the mathematician.