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Old 07-26-2006, 11:06 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dylan
Actually, Hezbollah wasn't elected, and most Lebanese people hate them. Syria and Iran have been using Hezbollah to control the southern part of the country. The problem is that Lebanon, because of its previous civil war, is still too weak to fight off these foreign influences. You may have noticed the protesting that happened last year.
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I thought someone on this forum said hezbully was elected? It's true most of the Lebanese hate them. They need to be exterminated like cockroaches.
Well, they have a political arm and they were democratically elected into 14 seats. If that's what you mean by "elected" then you're wrong. But I know for a fact that you're wrong about your statement that most Lebanese hate them. Do you have anything to back that up? Virtually all Lebanese in the south support them, especially now that this war is going on. And even though a lot of Lebanese are more liberal and hate Hezbollah, especially in Beirut, now you have a growing support for Hezbollah because of Israeli tactics. But mostly because the Hezbollah provide social services to them, more than the government; so their trust is then gained that way. And also Hezbollah has many schools and indoctrinates children.

Here you have the Israeli theory that you punish the Lebanese civilian population, and tell them it is Hezbollah's fault that it's happening to them. Well it doesn't really work that way, even if it might have some truth to it. They see it as Israeli and American made bombs, shells, and missiles are falling on the Lebanese people and infustructure; not Hezbollah. If my family was killed by an Israeli missile, and the Israelis told me it was because of what my government didn't do, I would be pissed the hell off at Israel, not my government. Although Hezbollah has some indirect guilt for starting this war, you have to look at the inciting event.

The inciting event is the continued repression, the abductions and the assassinations, the economic strangulation, and of coarse the steady takeover of the West Bank. I mean, the Israelis have the upperhand here. Both technologically and numerically. Of coarse the Palestinians are going to be pushed to desperate tactics to fight for the survival of Palestine. And this push to desperatism has gotten so far that some small more radical factions are fighting not for their freedom as Palestine but to wipe Israel off the map.

Again I recognize that Hezbollah has a lot to blame for conflict between Israel and Hezbollah. And I agree that they're terrorists that need to be eradicated or held accountable for their crimes against humanity. But what we see here is a conventional war campaign not directed at Hezbollah, but Lebanese targets which have nothing to do with the operational apparatus of Hezbollah (hospitals, power plants, civilian neighborhoods, fleeing Lebanese civilians, Red Cross, a UN outpost, just to name a few, and so on). The Israelis are trying to wage a conventional war on a group that is not conventional. They have their missile systems tucked away in forestry, caves, random crates in the streets, barns, and so on. You can't wage a conventional war on these people, especially one that targets specifically the average Lebanese people.

This is why Hezbollah's rate of fire of missiles is not deminishing one bit, but only seems to be growing. Because these people move from one hidden missile system to the next. They might fire off their missiles, and after they do, by the time the Israelis fire onto the determined position of that missile system, they have already moved because they're mobile (MLRS - Mobile Launch Rocket System), or the fighters have already abandoned that site to another hidden missile site down the road.
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Last edited by Katczinsky; 07-26-2006 at 11:13 AM.