Originally Posted by Katczinsky

Well last time I check I wasn't opening my mouth but moving my fingers. And also last time I checked, I wasn't getting my "butt kicked". If insulting people, flaming, and spreading your unsubstantiated opinions around means "winning" a debate, then sure you win. But if we're talking proof and logic, well I'm not too sure you're excelling very well in that area, pilgrim.

And Lieberman didn't step out of line on just one point of a "Democratic mantra". He generally supports the President's policies on a number of issues. Its not so much of what Lieberman's policies are, its just that Lieberman supports the President and his policies. This is very unpopular in the Democratic Party as you could imagine. Being against the President isn't a 'mantra'. Its not like every member of the Democratic Party is given a memo of what to believe or what not to believe. If it works that way in your party then I can only send my condolences. Democrats usually tend to think for themselves and is probably why they're so divided.