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Originally Posted by hevusa Socialist countries that have higher taxes have it better all around. Better social programs, shorter work weeks, longer vacations, longer lives, lower pollution, lower crime, etc etc.
It is NOT a crazy idea to suggest higher taxes. IT WORKS. | Humm please do tell us which countries you are referring to  |
The socialist Scandinavians of course! They have their priorities in the right places. Unfortunately America's little sister EU is ruining a lot of that beauty. I hope it can still be preserved through this transitional period. |
yeah screw them, here is something which i strongly feel is a problem and it looks as if it is rubbing off here in america "gay marriage was legalized in Scandinavia, marriage itself has virtually ceased to exist." ( http://www.wanttoknow.info/visionsofarmageddon)
oh yeah btw about this awsome health care issue..
"As is the case in the other Scandinavian countries, Norway has a National Health Care System. All Norwegians are insured through this system and it is financed through compulsory taxation. Unlike the United Kingdom, the private health care sector is very small, limited to a few clinics, mainly in the Oslo area. These clinics provide supplementary health care. It is, however, not possible for a Norwegian citizen to opt out of the National Health Care System and buy his or her own private health insurance.
During the past few years there have been a number of mass media reports of patients being denied presumed beneficial health care by the system. The system continues to suffer from long waiting lists. Even though the Government has introduced a 'waiting list guarantee' which gives patients with certain conditions a guarantee that they will be treated within 6 months, there has only been a small reduction in the number of patients with these conditions who have waited longer than 6 months for treatment. The issue of health care resource allocation or rationing has thus entered the public debate, as it has in most other countries."
humm seems like we have alot to learn from them  | I constantly here about the long waiting list. But never here how millions of Americans are on nolist. Millions do not have coverage. Adequate coverage can cost a person 150 to 200 a month. HMO are a joke. Many docs sign on and make money by making it difficult for the patient to get in. Many schedule one HMO per day. Universal health care benifits many. It benefits the people, it benefits business, since they wont have to cough up a lot of money for their employees..
Many say but its our privatized system that makes us the best health care in the world. Well, perhaps we have the best health care in the world, but the majority of the population has no access to it. What good is having the best health care system if 70% of the population can't afford it.
Insurance companies have a very powerful lobby. They select people that are already healthy and most likely not to use the insurance. If you are sick, a diabetic, etc. Your going to have problems getting Insurance, your probably going to pay even higher than the already high price for adequate insurance.
The other problem is that many insurance dictacte what can and can't be done. Not the Doctor.
Another problem is many Americans have little idea what adequate insurance coverage is. Many fall for the believe that they have good isurance at $30 dollars a month. These so call HMO are more of a discount plan than anything else. Your choices are limited as to who can see you. Refferals are very difficult to get, Doctors try to avoid scheduleing these patients. HMO is the biggest joke. You think your $30 a month plan is good, well I hope you dont get seriously ill.
Sorry the biggest joke are discount plans. Recently there are these plans that say we will cover you for $10 a month. It lower than an HMO. They create a fee schedule of what you can have done and they tell you who to go to. An many do not even know it not an isurance plan. They go to the office and ask what does my insurance cover. Then they are told nothing, prices are your resposibility. The "isurance" plan negotiattes a discount.
Our health care system is a mess. SS is nothing to the problems health care is in this country. We are the only industrialize nation with out adequate healthcare. Cuba has a better health care system for their people, and one of the most modern in the world, and every citizen has access to it.. |