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Old 09-21-2006, 09:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A) The word "sodomy" never appears in the Bible. It appears much later in our English usage. Around the 1250-1300 time-frame.

B) sod‧om‧y  /ˈsɒdəmi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sod-uh-mee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.
2. copulation with a member of the same sex.
3. bestiality (def. 4).
[Origin: 1250–1300; ME sodomie < OF. See Sodom, -y3]

I am frequently amazed at how many people want to discuss "sodomy" and ONLY discuss the "same sex" aspect of it.

Heterosexual anal or oral copulation is also considered "sodomy", and has also been historically condemned by the church.
But of course, THIS condemnation is abandoned by modern Christianity, out of convenience...

3) Nobody has ever addressed the issue of why the scholars never interpreted the sin of "Sodom and Gomorrah" as NON-HOMOSEXUAL for CENTURIES after the last book was written.
You can quote all the MODERN rephrasings of the bible you want. It's like Jane leaving John in 1700, with a variety of vague reasonings being given.
Then, in 1950, authors start writing EXPLICIT reasons into their accounts of why Jane left John, saying it was for adultery. The modern reinvention proves nothing.

4) And as I have pointed out, with nobody really addressing it, the phrase "to know" is used numerous times in the bible. Sometimes for heterosexual sexual meaning. Sometime for non sexual meaning.
There is a LONG HISTORY of the Christian church not acknowledging that "sodomy" is sex. They only considered vaginal sex as "intercourse", and some still cling to these definitions today.
If anybody can show me anywhere in the Bible where they use "to know" in the HOMOSEXUAL sense, beyond this ONE passage where you're trying to claim it, I welcome it.

5) I have no personal doubts the Bible is against homosexuality. The bible is against a lot of things that don't make sense to me. The bible is against a lot of things that have since been abandoned as foolishness, and nobody in their right mind would try to adopt those rules.
My point is that claiming that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah is "homosexuality" is a reinvention of the myth.
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